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Billyboy
06-09-2005, 03:17 AM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP (t6714)
Button (t3745)
SB (t5510)
Hero (t3290)
UTG (t2074)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t400</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls t200.

Flop: (t700) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t2865 (All-In)</font>,

RESULTS
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UTG folds.

Final Pot: t3565 <font color="white"> </font>

igotBlackJak
06-09-2005, 03:19 AM
yes?

tech
06-09-2005, 03:21 AM
Wouldn't a smaller flop bet accomplish the same thing?

Colombo
06-09-2005, 03:34 AM
I think this is a stupid play. You have a very good stack, and theres no need to force anything. Just fold.

DasLeben
06-09-2005, 03:40 AM
No, this is a terrible place for a stop and go. You have 16BB, and stop and goes are meant to be used in situations where you need the chips on the table or else your tournament is at stake.

It's a risky move to be used if you're in desperate shape. Misusing these is going to cost you a lot of money.

flyingmoose
06-09-2005, 04:04 AM
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No, this is a terrible place for a stop and go. You have 16BB, and stop and goes are meant to be used in situations where you need the chips on the table or else your tournament is at stake.

It's a risky move to be used if you're in desperate shape. Misusing these is going to cost you a lot of money.

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Word

xenotix
06-09-2005, 04:14 AM
Also, as I understand it - stop and go is better used in a situation in which you're approx. a 50/50 against your opponent...doubtful thats the case with your hand.

mscott2374
06-09-2005, 08:28 AM
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Also, as I understand it - stop and go is better used in a situation in which you're approx. a 50/50 against your opponent...doubtful thats the case with your hand.

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I thought that a Stop N Go is where you have no FE pre flop, but by calling the raise and pushing ANY flop you hope to create FE any make OP make a mistake by laying his hand down

Phill S
06-09-2005, 08:33 AM
All i thought when i read this hand was why?

Why why why why why?

Seriously, why?

Maybe you should go over the last week or two worth of threads, there is a good discussion on stop and goes.

Phill

pergesu
06-09-2005, 09:37 AM
Stop n gos are used to create some FE when you have no preflop FE.

When you've got 15 BB after posting, you have tons of preflop FE. Thus no reason at all to try a stop n go. No reason at all to try to win this pot, in fact. Big stacks let you be creative, but be aware that there's a fine line between creative and stupid.

durron597
06-09-2005, 09:54 AM
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Stop n gos are used to create some FE when you have no preflop FE.

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This is correct. If you want to make a move just reraise preflop unless you have a read that he is loose preflop but tight post flop.

Wes ManTooth
06-09-2005, 10:53 AM
Besides the stacks sizes and situation at hand... UTG min raised... a stop and go at this time is not well advised.

Karak567
06-09-2005, 10:55 AM
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No, this is a terrible place for a stop and go. You have 16BB, and stop and goes are meant to be used in situations where you need the chips on the table or else your tournament is at stake.

It's a risky move to be used if you're in desperate shape. Misusing these is going to cost you a lot of money.

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What he said ^^^

therock
06-09-2005, 11:00 AM
I would not consider this a stop n go because OP would not have pushed a flop that contained a face card or two.

At first I thought the play was teribble. After looking a little closer, OP pushed 1600 into a 900 pot. I think this might by +EV becasue Villian is going to fold a lot of hands that you would min-raise from UG. I would be scared of A7 or A9 calling. Other than that I dont see too many hands that worry me. I'd take my chances that Villian does not have AA or KK.

With the stacks the way they are, I think you need to push or check/fold after the flop. I'd probably check/fold but I think it is close.