Quick 99 hand for review

[Lady Dont Tekno]

Villain isn't amazing but he doesn't play recklessly either.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Hero (t600)
SB (t800)
BB (t575)
UTG (t830)
UTG+1 (t820)
MP1 (t1015)
MP2 (t1620)
CO (t1740)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t80</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls t80, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (t205) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t175</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t520 (All-In)</font>

Thoughts?

funKy
-LDT

[Bigwig]

Fold preflop.

[junkmail3]

What does his PFR tell you?

It's early. I would have folded to the PFR. Since you didn't, I would have to think about the post flop bet.

He beats you with AA - TT, which he may have judging from his PFR.

I'm a little worried about an overpair here. I'd fold and wait for a better situation.

[therock]

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Fold preflop.

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Yep. You want to play 99 vs. several opponents to increase the chances of getting paid if you hit your set.

[Lady Dont Tekno]

thx dudes

jammin-
LDT

[Bigwig]

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What does his PFR tell you?

It's early. I would have folded to the PFR. Since you didn't, I would have to think about the post flop bet.

He beats you with AA - TT, which he may have judging from his PFR.

I'm a little worried about an overpair here. I'd fold and wait for a better situation.

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The flop bet is confident. It shouts overpair/afraid of donks chasing flush draws.

[schwza]

this is how i'd play. i'd fold 88 preflop though.

bigwig, do you fold TT preflop?

[Bigwig]

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bigwig, do you fold TT preflop?

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Yes.

I'm pushing JJ.

Short answer: I'm not calling ANY raise to 80. I'm pushing or folding.

[ChuckyB]

To tell you the truth I like this play. You got your second-best outcome on the flop...all undercards. Depending on UTG perception of the table...this could be AK, AQ, AJs, KQs...stuff that's not an overpair.

The pre-flop raise UTG is only 2.6x BB...was that standard? I would have expected a bigger flop bet with two flush and some low (though very doubtful) straight possibilities out there.

[Bigwig]

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I would have expected a bigger flop bet

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It's pot sized. That's plenty big against one opponent. Too big, in fact.

[ChuckyB]

I'm used to putting in at least the size of the pot...if not 10-20 per cent over. Am I going too big?

I play the smaller SNGs where, I assume, the players are quite a lot worse.

[Bigwig]

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I'm used to putting in at least the size of the pot...if not 10-20 per cent over. Am I going too big?

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Depends on the situation, but generally speaking, that's far too big. It's pretty rare I bet the size of the pot unless I or my opponent are short stacked and we're getting in all-in territory.

[ChuckyB]

What's better: 1/2? 2/3? Anything over 1/3 since I'm probably a 3:1 favorite?

[Bigwig]

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What's better: 1/2? 2/3? Anything over 1/3 since I'm probably a 3:1 favorite?

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It depends on the scenario. With draws 2/3 is fine. Without 1/2 is fine. Pot sized is fine with a couple of draws and multiple players.

Just don't get in the habit of doing it too often. You'll get players you want to call fold. And when you're beaten and would fold to a reraise, you'll get away cheaper. Slapping 125 into a 200 pot and then folding to reraise is a lot cheaper than betting 250 and doing the same thing.

In fact, it's half as expensive.

[lastchance]

You certainly don't have the chips to get away from an overpair HU here. I think calling preflop might be the best line, though I think pushing is better, and I don't know about folding.

[Bigwig]

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You certainly don't have the chips to get away from an overpair HU here. I think calling preflop might be the best line, though I think pushing is better, and I don't know about folding.

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You think pushing preflop is the best line here?

Without an incredible read, no way.

[lastchance]

t125 in the pot and Hero's only got t600 behind. I get shown a lot of crap, so that affects my decision a lot. Still, I think you're probably right.

Pains me to fold 99 in position though.

[hansarnic]

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Villain isn't amazing but he doesn't play recklessly either.

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So given that let's make his range AK/Q and TT+ based on his PF raise. Let's also assume he makes a 2/3 pot continuation bet 100% of the time. Further, let's assume he folds AK/Q if he misses the flop and you re-raise him all-in on the flop.

Now work out the numbers for all possible strategies for playing 99 here. Happy to be proved wrong, but I'm pretty sure you won't find one that's profitable.