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benneh
06-08-2005, 01:21 PM
apologize if this isn't this place. wasn't sure where else to put this.

this should be really simple, but i just dont know how to set it up. no need to solve it for me, i dont want you guys doin my homework (finals today)

Dealt a 5 card hand from standard 52 card deck

if one king shows up, you win $10. otherwise, you lose $1

what is your EV?

clarification: At least one king. having a pair or trips does not affect the outcome

LetYouDown
06-08-2005, 01:51 PM
Well, the probability of 5 random cards containing at least one king should be roughly:

1 - C(48,5)/C(52,5) = 34.1% or about 1.93 to 1. I come up with roughly $2.76 profit per "hand".

probman
06-08-2005, 01:53 PM
Let p=prob(no king shows up in five cards). It is easy to see that

p = (48/52)(47/51)(46/50)(45/49)(44/48) = C(48,5)/C(52,5).

We then have

EV = pE[V|no kings] + (1-p)E[V|at least one king]
EV = (-1)p+10(1-p)
EV = 10-11p

phoenixbets
06-08-2005, 06:25 PM
Fastest way is to calculate odds of not getting any K at all, i.e., do it "backwards." That's
52 cards, 4 are Kings, 48 aren't, so it's
48/52*47/51*46/50*45/49*44/48 or .66 or you will not get one 66% of the time. That means you will get one 34% of the time. In other words, it's awfully close to lose twice, then win once.

I think I'm right, but if not I'll find out soon enough and learn something along with you.

You want to take it from there, based on what you said?

benneh
06-09-2005, 01:08 AM
LetYouDown had it right the first time, though I didn't pick up on it til later on in the day when I realized his C stood for combination. Duh! I'll do it out with variables sine i dont have a calculator on me to speed it up. should be easy to follow along in case anyone else wanted to know how to figure somethin out like this (though i doubt it unless you're playin weird gamblin games)



x = C48,5/C52,5

EV = (1-x)(10)+(x)(-1) for some answer like $2.75 or so