Higher Stakes with Low Bank Roll

[TryingHard]

If you want to play $30-$60 you would need a BankRoll of around $18000 which is 300 x BB.. My little BankRoll of $4500 just won't cut it. I do however work full time for a living and was thinking of taking a shot at a higher limit. I was thinking of maybe hitting a $10-$20 or $15-$30 games. I just wondered what everyones view was on this move. Bad play? or worth a shot.

Also what kinda bankroll do you guys take when you play these levels.

[Dariel86]

What do you want to hear?

"Yeah just take a shot, your 100bb bankroll is enough!"

[sfer]

Sure take a shot if your bankroll is replenishable. But if you're asking such beginner questions it's probably a good idea to play smaller and pay less for your lessons.

[Jeffage]

You can take a shot at any limit you want with about 25 large bets...just be prepared to lose it. The 300 bet bankroll requirement is a guideline for a bankroll THAT CAN'T BE REPLACED and assumes a player want to play at the same limit for the rest of his life. How important is your $4500 bankroll to you? Is it easily replaced? Would losing it cause you distress? These are questions you have to ask yourself and risk tolerance varies by individual. I have played 100-200 before and don't have a six figure bankroll.

Jeff

[IndieMatty]

I'm an advocate of taking shots. For those of us with jobs who start this as a hobby; it's pretty ridiculous (if you think you're good enough) to be playing 2/4. If you can handle losing your buyin, go for it.

[Jeffage]

I agree 100%. A good job is a nice safety net (in addition to a solid bankroll) to be able to play for healthy stakes. Some people aren't built like this though and only see dollar amounts. But taking shots is how I am able to play the limits I do today. Of course, you have to be responsible and never risk money you truly can't afford to lose. But I think the best players have gamble in them and will take chances. You have to make the most of your playing time (unless it is strictly a hobby for you and profits don't matter). I personally like to splash.

Jeff

[IndieMatty]

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I agree 100%. A good job is a nice safety net (in addition to a solid bankroll) to be able to play for healthy stakes. Some people aren't built like this though and only see dollar amounts. But taking shots is how I am able to play the limits I do today. Of course, you have to be responsible and never risk money you truly can't afford to lose. But I think the best players have gamble in them and will take chances. You have to make the most of your playing time (unless it is strictly a hobby for you and profits don't matter). I personally like to splash.

Jeff

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Yup. I've repeated my luckbox story a few times. But in regards to this, I played 15/30 for the first time with a 1800 bankroll in the fall. 2/3 successful shots within 2 weeks and I've never looked back. But to put it in perspective. The first shot? (the unsuccessful one) I lost my full buy in ($750).

[TryingHard]

Ok I'm Liking your views here.... what about if I do this then.. take half my bank roll around $2200 and take a shot at the $15-$30 if I win then so be it, I'll stay for awhile if I lose I can go back to playing the low limit games i've grown to hate /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Jeffage]

Seems reasonable to me. That 2200 allows you three 25 big bet shots. Don't blow it all at once. You have three shots with that roll. Good luck.

Jeff

[piggity]

I just wanted to stress the importance of not letting the larger bet sizes adversely affect your play. That is, mentally prepare yourself to detach the real dollar values from the chips, and view a big bet as simply a big bet.

Good luck.

[IndieMatty]

Good advice.

[TryingHard]

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Seems reasonable to me. That 2200 allows you three 25 big bet shots. Don't blow it all at once. You have three shots with that roll. Good luck.

Jeff

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How do you work out playing 15-30 I would have 25 big bet shots with $2200 bank roll?

[TryingHard]

anyway I played $15-$30 on party for around 2 hours and my $2200 is now $6500 after a major run of cards, I was pretty much hitting everydraw i chased too.

[mosta]

pay attention also to the part about that unreplaceable bankroll being all for the same limit. I make a practice of moving down to win it back if I lose enough to put a bad taste in my mouth. I can take a kick in the stomach, but I don't like to risk two in a row. I have no problem spending weeks at a limit I'm supposed to have graduated from. Winning makes you feel better.

[highlife]

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anyway I played $15-$30 on party for around 2 hours and my $2200 is now $6500 after a major run of cards, I was pretty much hitting everydraw i chased too .

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30/60 tonight?

[Jeffage]

Read it again carefully. You can take three separate shots of 25 big bets each.

Jeff

[goofball]

Taking shots is great. Do it when you're running well, playing well, and confident. This is something I don't believe someone has mentioned. I moved up to the party 15 by taking 2 $500 shots with my 3k bankroll. First one I lost quickly, second one started me on an 8ish K rush.

However I wouldn't take a similar shot now, I haven't been running well/playing well. I'm starting to win again, but I'll have to play for a while longer before I take my next shot (party 30 or wynn/mirage 40).

[JimGil]

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I just wanted to stress the importance of not letting the larger bet sizes adversely affect your play. That is, mentally prepare yourself to detach the real dollar values from the chips, and view a big bet as simply a big bet.

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I'm a 3-6 player who takes periodic shots at the 15-30, I still think its crazy that 3BB is $90 as opposed to $18. But hey, you still have to raise and reraise at the right times regardless of the $$$.

[Sponger15SB]

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anyway I played $15-$30 on party for around 2 hours and my $2200 is now $6500 after a major run of cards, I was pretty much hitting everydraw i chased too .

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30/60 tonight?

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Well he almost trippled his $2200, so logically he should move up to $60-90

[mikelow]

Good luck! Hope you know where the cash advance machine is. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

One big test: Can you call down with a small pair on a flop
like Qxx? Other players may become aware you're on short money and try to push you around.

[autobet]

Since you are not playing for a living you can do whatever you want.

Your bankroll would give you about 225xBB for a 10-20 which is close enough for a working man.

If I were you I would drop down if you get below $2,000.

[UMTerp]

You made 140 BBs in two hours?!? Nice run.

[TryingHard]

I feeling a bit sick now...thought I must be on a lucky streak took another shoot at the 30 60 again sat down with $2200 and within about 25-30 mins Id lost the lot with a king flush and trip 3's beaten by a straight and some idiot capping the whole way with 2 pair.. I'm starting to believe that the 30-60 is looser than the 3-6 tables..

I'm still up on original shot I took..about $2300 in profit on the day..which is still a great run for me..now tomorrow will be the decider, I'm gonna take today's profit, try and spin it up on a $30-$60 full ring game... Still find it scary I Just lost over 2k in under 30 mins /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[highlife]

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...thought I must be on a lucky streak took another shoot at the 30 60 again sat down with $2200 and within about 25-30 mins Id lost the lot with a king flush and trip 3's beaten by a straight and some idiot capping the whole way with 2 pair..

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I would feel sick too if my flush lost to a straight, and my set of three's lost to two pair...

[TryingHard]

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...thought I must be on a lucky streak took another shoot at the 30 60 again sat down with $2200 and within about 25-30 mins Id lost the lot with a king flush and trip 3's beaten by a straight and some idiot capping the whole way with 2 pair..

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I would feel sick too if my flush lost to a straight, and my set of three's lost to two pair...

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err that did'nt happen...I know my gramma is bad but you can understand it if you speak basic english?

[SoBeDude]

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...thought I must be on a lucky streak took another shoot at the 30 60 again sat down with $2200 and within about 25-30 mins Id lost the lot with a king flush and trip 3's beaten by a straight and some idiot capping the whole way with 2 pair..

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I would feel sick too if my flush lost to a straight, and my set of three's lost to two pair...

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He said he lost with a king flush, had trip 3's lose to a straight, and another hand when his opponent had 2 pair. Seems right to me.

-Scott