Best rock albums since 1990

[uw_madtown]

CMI, jason_t and I were having a huge debate on AIM what the best five albums in the last 15 years are. I can't make up my mind, there's like 30 albums that could be top five material. They both have pretty nailed down lists.

I'm just glad CMI limited it to just rock, as there'd be about a dozen rap/hip-hop albums that would be up for consideration too.

Post your top ten list. My only definitive ones are:

#1: Yankee Hotel Foxtrot by Wilco
#2: Nevermind by Nirvana


Other possible candidates for the top ten:
Beck - Odelay!
Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning
Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin, Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots
Green Day - Dookie and American Idiot
Modest Mouse - The Moon & Antarctica
Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
Nirvana - In Utero
Oasis - (What's the Story) Morning Glory?
Pavement - Slanted & Enchanted and Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
Radiohead - Kid A and OK Computer
Rage Against the Machine - Rage Against the Machine
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Spoon - Kill the Moonlight, Gimme Fiction
Weezer - Weezer
The White Stripes - White Blood Cells

[Senor Cardgage]

There's no way I could narrow it down so I won't even try, but I just wanted to say how bizarre it is to see Oasis and Neutral Milk Hotel together on any list.

[IndieMatty]

This is a really good list. I might have to throw And You Will Know Us By The Trail of Dead - Source Tags and Code (as long as we are putting spoon/modest mouse/bright eyes and such). I think that album is perfect.

[istewart]

My list looks similar to yours, as well as

Pearl Jam - Ten
Tool - Lateralus/Aenima
Weezer - Pinkerton
The Shins - CTN or OIW, depending on mood
The Arcade Fire - Funeral
Belle and Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister
Elliott Smith - XO
The New Pornographers - Electric Version
R.E.M. - Out of Time
Spiritualized - Let it Come Down

[IndieMatty]

Another good one. Esp. Spiritualized.

[istewart]

Good choice, forgot about them. Need to listen to that again.

[uw_madtown]

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The Shins - CTN or OIW, depending on mood

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Another part of the discussion was how blasphemous I am for liking CTN more than OIW, as well as for liking Yoshimi more than Soft Bulletin.

[istewart]

jason_t

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[CallMeIshmael]

1. Neutral Milk Hotel: In the aeroplane over the sea
2. The Flaming Lips: The Soft Bulletin
3. Wilco: Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
4. The Shins: Oh, Inverted World
5. Nirvana: Nevermind

[CallMeIshmael]

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jason_t

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It was me you tard.

[istewart]

No, regarding the Shins.

Hey, CMI, GTFO.

[CallMeIshmael]

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No, regarding the Shins.

Hey, CMI, GTFO.

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I stand by this conversation:


CMI (11:20:23 PM): no because the soft bulletin is probably the second best album of the best 15 years
CMI (11:20:35 PM): and MUCH better than yoshimi
UW (11:20:38 PM): wow
CMI (11:20:41 PM): wha?
CMI (11:20:49 PM): those 2 arent even close
UW (11:21:10 PM): I disagree
UW (11:21:29 PM): I love OIW and TSB but I love CTN and YBtPR more
CMI (11:21:39 PM): here is the thing
CMI (11:22:10 PM): im willing to accept CTN > OIW in your opinion
CMI (11:22:12 PM): i disagree
CMI (11:22:20 PM): but, im not willing to say you're wrong
CMI (11:22:21 PM): but
CMI (11:22:30 PM): saying TSB < TBtPR
CMI (11:22:31 PM): is wrong

[mmbt0ne]

This is really hard. So instead, I'm just gonna post my friend's top 20 list.

1. Nirvana – Nevermind
2. The Postal Service – Give Up
3. The Offspring – Smash
4. Radiohead – OK Computer
5. The Strokes – Is This It?
6. 311 – Grassroots
7. Weezer – Pinkerton
8. Weezer – The Blue Album
9. Beck – Sea Change
10. Third Eye Blind – Self-Titled
11. Bush – Sixteen Stone
12. Guster – Lost and Gone Forever
13. 311 – Transistor
14. Live – Throwing Copper
15. 311 – Music
16. The Streets – Original Pirate Material
17. Ben Folds – Live
18. The White Stripes – Elephant
19. Interpol – Turn on the Bright Lights
20. Radiohead – Kid A

Forgot #20.

[ThaSaltCracka]

there is no way we all will agree on whats #1, which is partly why I hate these threads. Bah.. Good lists overall though, a bunch of solid albums.

[miajag81]

Smash at #3? Great album, but no way would I rank it above Pinkerton, Elephant, or a few other ones on there.

[PokerBob]

YHFT is the most over-rated record of the last 10 years. I hate it. I don't get the obsession with it at all. Summerteeth is infinitely better. [end rant]

Here are some gems, in no particular order:

Uncle Tupelo-No Depression (and it's not close)
Marah-Let's Cut the Crap and Hook Up Later on Tonight
U2-Achtung Baby
BashNPop-Friday Night is Killing Me
BuffaloTom-Let Me Come Over
Radiohead-The Bends
The Weakerthans-Left and Leaving
16 Horsepower-Low Estate
Sebadoh-Bakesale

[ThaSaltCracka]

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[jason_t]

The correct list.

The Strokes, Is This It
Neutral Milk Hotel, In An Aeroplane Over the Sea
Wilco, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
The Shins, Oh, Inverted World
Nirvana, Unplugged in NYC
Iron & Wine, The Creek Drank The Cradle
The Shins, Chutes too Narrow
The Flaming Lips, The Soft Bulletin
Elliott Smith, XO
Nirvana, Nevermind
Interpol, Turn On The Bright Lights
Radiohead, The Bends
The Strokes, Room on Fire
Radiohead, OK Computer
Red Hot Chili Peppers, Californication

[sfer]

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Pavement - Slanted & Enchanted and Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain

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Great choices.

[contentless]

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This is really hard. So instead, I'm just gonna post my friend's top 20 list.

1. Nirvana – Nevermind
2. The Postal Service – Give Up
3. The Offspring – Smash
4. Radiohead – OK Computer
5. The Strokes – Is This It?
6. 311 – Grassroots
7. Weezer – Pinkerton
8. Weezer – The Blue Album
9. Beck – Sea Change
10. Third Eye Blind – Self-Titled
11. Bush – Sixteen Stone
12. Guster – Lost and Gone Forever
13. 311 – Transistor
14. Live – Throwing Copper
15. 311 – Music
16. The Streets – Original Pirate Material
17. Ben Folds – Live
18. The White Stripes – Elephant
19. Interpol – Turn on the Bright Lights
20. Radiohead – Kid A

Forgot #20.

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I really dislike this list. Mainly because 311 is on there THREE times. And Sea Change...

I was at the Ben Folds Live show where they did the album cover though. Sweet show. Avalon in the hizzouse!

[cnfuzzd]

the only correct answer is Ten, just for the record...

peace

john nickle

[PokerBob]

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the only correct answer is Ten, just for the record...


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meh

[PokerBob]

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#1: Yankee Hotel Foxtrot by Wilco



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I went to UW. I love UW. I used to blast UT at parties in our house on Randall Ct. I hate that YHFT record. I really hate that record. That is all.

[cnfuzzd]

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the only correct answer is Ten, just for the record...


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meh

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youre outta the room, bitch...

peace

john nickle

[bdk3clash]

I put DJ Shadow's Endtroducing on the list, and anyone that says it isn't a rock album can kiss my fat black ass.

[gvibes]

My list, heavily tilted to the music of the last three years or so, since I didn't listen to much music before then. Also, I only took albums from this thread and albums I have in MP3, which limits things a bit

Wilco - Summerteeth
Arcade Fire - Funeral
Broken Social Scene - you forgot it in people
Radiohead - OK Computer
NMH - Aeroplane
Shins - OIW
Interpol - turn on the bright lights
Beta Band - 3 EP's
Postal Service - Give up
Flaming Lips - Yoshimi
Sufjan Stevens - Seven Swans
Badly Drawn Boy - Hour of the Bewilderbeest
RJD2 - Deadringer (kind of hip-hop, I guess)
Libertines - UP the bracket

Others that I just thought of but didn't want to put anywhere:
Ryan Adams - Heartbreaker
Jim O'Rourke - Insignificance

[Macdaddy Warsaw]

The lack of Failure's Fantastic Planet on any list saddens me.

Also, the lack of Built to Spill on any list (or maybe I missed it) also saddens me.

Also, Dismemberment Plan.

There are many more, but I'll just go with my top 3 somewhat obscure but not really obscure at all bands.

[hurlanator]

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#1: Yankee Hotel Foxtrot by Wilco



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I went to UW. I love UW. I used to blast UT at parties in our house on Randall Ct. I hate that YHFT record. I really hate that record. That is all.

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Shouldn't you be spending your time posting bad beats, droping 73 racks or not coming within 15 feet of another male as opposed to raving about how bad one of the most amazing albums of the past 15 years is?

[gvibes]

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Also, the lack of Built to Spill on any list (or maybe I missed it) also saddens me.

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I wanted to, but I couldn't decide which album I liked best - ancient melodies of the future probably should have been on mine however.

[uw_madtown]

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#1: Yankee Hotel Foxtrot by Wilco



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I went to UW. I love UW. I used to blast UT at parties in our house on Randall Ct. I hate that YHFT record. I really hate that record. That is all.

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If it makes you feel any better, you're wrong about YHF. I don't mean that in a "in my opinion" kind of way. I mean that anyone who HATES YHF is objectively wrong and thus should recieve the board title of sub-human retard, ala CMI.

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[PokerBob]

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the only correct answer is Ten, just for the record...


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meh

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youre outta the room, bitch...

peace

john nickle

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vnh

[Macdaddy Warsaw]

I have to say, YHF was a great album, but like...not best album of the last fifteen years by any means. I've listened to it over and over and I still can't see why it's getting such massive applause, critical and otherwise...

Like I said, great album, but...I dunno...There are at least 3 Built to Spill albums that trounce YHF, although I'm somewhat biased since I have a man-crush on Doug Martsch.

[PokerBob]

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#1: Yankee Hotel Foxtrot by Wilco



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I went to UW. I love UW. I used to blast UT at parties in our house on Randall Ct. I hate that YHFT record. I really hate that record. That is all.

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If it makes you feel any better, you're wrong about YHF. I don't mean that in a "in my opinion" kind of way. I mean that anyone who HATES YHF is objectively wrong and thus should recieve the board title of sub-human retard, ala CMI.


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I tried to like it. I really did. Wilco was one of my favorite bands up to that point (and Uncle Tupelo is in the top 3 for me). A.M. was awesome, as were Being There and Summerteeth, but YHFT just is way too cute. Tweedy has lost touch, IMHO.

[PokerBob]

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Badly Drawn Boy - Hour of the Bewilderbeest


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Ooooo, I forgot that one. vnh.

[Jack of Arcades]

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The lack of Failure's Fantastic Planet on any list saddens me.

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Huh? The OP has it at #2, the first time it was released as NEVERMIND.

[ceyoung]

no love for relationship of command? that by far is my favorite album of the last 10 years.

[PokerBob]

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YHFT is the most over-rated record of the last 10 years. I hate it. I don't get the obsession with it at all. Summerteeth is infinitely better. [end rant]

Here are some gems, in no particular order:

Uncle Tupelo-No Depression (and it's not close)
Marah-Let's Cut the Crap and Hook Up Later on Tonight
U2-Achtung Baby
BashNPop-Friday Night is Killing Me
BuffaloTom-Let Me Come Over
Radiohead-The Bends
The Weakerthans-Left and Leaving
16 Horsepower-Low Estate
Sebadoh-Bakesale

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Afew others:

Whiskeytown-Stranger's Almanac
Superchunk-Foolish
Archers of Loaf-Icky Metal (I can't believe I forgot that one)
The Bottle Rockets-The Brooklyn Side
Elliott Smith-Either/Or
The Spinanes-Strand
Dinsoaur Jr. - Bug
The Smashing Pumpkins-Siamese Dream
The Replacements-All Shook Down
The Lemonheads-It's a Shame About Ray
Ben Lee-Breathing Tornadoes
Yo La Tengo-Painful

[Macdaddy Warsaw]

Word. Nice pick.

[istewart]

Deloused in the Comatorium > all At The Drive-In albums.

[Macdaddy Warsaw]

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The lack of Failure's Fantastic Planet on any list saddens me.

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Huh? The OP has it at #2, the first time it was released as NEVERMIND.

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Me: [censored] you
Jack of Arcades: ahahahahahahahahaha
Jack of Arcades: just [censored] with ya.
Me: I like it infinitely more than Nevermind
Jack of Arcades: I don't really like nevermind at all

[Macdaddy Warsaw]

False.

[ceyoung]

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False.

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[Jack of Arcades]

Loveless is, uh, getting no love, but needs to. Beautiful.

Dismemberment plan's Emergency and I and Change both deserve to be mentioned, as does Built to Spill's Keep it Like a Secret, There's Nothing Wrong with Love, and Perfect From Now On all rules.

I find Summerteeth to be superior to YHFT.

I feel Sleater-Kinney should be mentioned, at least One Beat.

Pixies?

I've got lots of love in my heart for the Dresden Dolls.

Obligatory mentions of Strokes, Interpol, and Hot Hot Heat.

Spoon, like, everything they've done.

Wrens - Meadowlands

[Jack of Arcades]

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False.

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Relationship of Command > you.

[Macdaddy Warsaw]

If we get to mention post-rock, I think Explosions in the Sky needs a mention.

[uw_madtown]

Okay, uh... people are throwing out a lot of great albums/bands, but... how about some actual top 10 lists? In order, numbered, and stuff.

[PokerBob]

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Loveless is, uh, getting no love, but needs to. Beautiful.


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Assuming you are talking about My Bloody Valentine, then I agree.

[Jack of Arcades]

I don't do lists.

Edit. I might be able to do a top ten for the first half of 2005. Might.

[IndieMatty]

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If we get to mention post-rock, I think Explosions in the Sky needs a mention.

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[ThaSaltCracka]

where is Daryn when we need him, god damn, all you idiots do this whenever a thread starts about rock groups, you all spew out indie band after indie band, all of which are basically like 4 years old at the most. Get of your highhorse's already,

[IndieMatty]

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Deloused in the Comatorium > all At The Drive-In albums.

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Relationship belongs over Deloused.

[contentless]

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where is Daryn when we need him, god damn, all you idiots do this whenever a thread starts about rock groups, you all spew out indie band after indie band, all of which are basically like 4 years old at the most. Get of your highhorse's already,

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You're a champion at contributing, Monsieur Daryn's-Bitch.

[Jack of Arcades]

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where is Daryn when we need him, god damn, all you idiots do this whenever a thread starts about rock groups, you all spew out indie band after indie band, all of which are basically like 4 years old at the most. Get of your highhorse's already,

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Let's see. You replied to MacDaddy Warsaw, so let's go with him.

Failure's Fantastic Planet came out in 1996. Dismemberment Plan formed in 1993. Built to Spill's There's Nothing Wrong With Love came out in 1994.

[PokerBob]

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where is Daryn when we need him, god damn, all you idiots do this whenever a thread starts about rock groups, you all spew out indie band after indie band, all of which are basically like 4 years old at the most. Get of your highhorse's already,

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Uh, most of the bands on my list are from the early 90's.

[jgorham]

#1 Kid A - Radiohead
#2 OK Computer - Radiohead
#3 The Soft Bulletin - Flaming Lips
#4 In the Aeroplane Over the Sea - Neutral Milk Hotel
#5 Yankee Hotel Foxtrot - Wilco
#6 Chutes Too Narrow - The Shins
#7 Funeral - Arcade Fire
#8 Is This It - The Stokes
#9 Loveless - My Bloody Valentine
#10 Oh Inverted World - The Shins

Yoshimi is only a great album for the first 5 or so songs, IMO. After that it becomes merely good. And I may just like Chutes too Narrow more because I heard it first.

Edit: I really want Surfer Rosa and Pinkerton on this list, but can't trade them with anything.

[IndieMatty]

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where is Daryn when we need him, god damn, all you idiots do this whenever a thread starts about rock groups, you all spew out indie band after indie band, all of which are basically like 4 years old at the most. Get of your highhorse's already,

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OP had three "indie" bands in his list. Wilco was an "indie" band.

Though I sorta agree at the same time, I'm guilty of this.

[Macdaddy Warsaw]

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I don't do lists.

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Lists are [censored] hard.

ok, fine...

1. BtS - Keep It Like a Secret
2. BtS - There's Nothing Wrong with Love
3. BtS - Perfect from Now On
4. Dismemberment Plan - Emergency & I

It gets dicey after 4...

5. Failure - Fantastic Planet
6. Hum - You'd Prefer an Astronaut (Needs Some Love)
7. Broken Social Scene - You Forgot It in People
8. The Beta Band - Three EP's
9. American Analog Set - Promise of Love (Should be much higher but I'm lazy, let's put this at 5 and move everything down)
10. Ted Leo & The Pharmacists - Hearts of Oak (just giving my man some love)

Hum maybe shouldn't be on there. Replace them with Wrens - Meadowlands and give them honorable mention.

Honorable mention goes to bands like Modest Mouse, Flaming Lips, Wilco, Interpol, Strokes, and a bunch of other bands that are too popular to make it on my top 10 list because I'm an indie rock kid and I just looooooove that obscure [censored]. /sarc

Anyway, there goes my list. Rock and roll.

EDIT: Also, I just got into them but Calexico rocks, but I'm not sure how "rock" they are. Also, if Calexico gets a mention then so do the Decemberists.

[ThaSaltCracka]

dude, about 50% of these albums I have heard off and heard( I like most of them), but I cannot possibly see how you guys can think they are some of the best CD's ever. I mean, if you guys like them fine, thats your list, which I think is a huge distinction. No one will agree on whats #1, or whats better, everyone has their own opinions. All this indie rock circle jerk-fest are annoying as hell, and thats all I am sayin, and part of the reason I usually avoid these threads is because of how ridiculous they get.

[Jack of Arcades]

The title of the post is "Best Rock Albums Since 1990." We're obviously not going to mention the Beatles or Velvet Underground or Harry Nillson or anything.

[Macdaddy Warsaw]

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dude, about 50% of these albums I have heard off and heard( I like most of them), but I cannot possibly see how you guys can think they are some of the best CD's ever. I mean, if you guys like them fine, thats your list, which I think is a huge distinction. No one will agree on whats #1, or whats better, everyone has their own opinions. All this indie rock circle jerk-fest are annoying as hell, and thats all I am sayin, and part of the reason I usually avoid these threads is because of how ridiculous they get.

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Best rock albums since 1990

[jgorham]

I think your point here is not valid. The fact that indie bands are getting mentioned is because the people who are posting in this thread are into music in general, and have therefore listened to many more records, including mainstream music and indie music. The lists I would be skeptical of are the opposite.

In any case, the only point these threads really have is to give people more albums to listen to. Or at least that is how I feel.

[uw_madtown]

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dude, about 50% of these albums I have heard off and heard( I like most of them), but I cannot possibly see how you guys can think they are some of the best CD's ever.

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Subject: Best rock albums since 1990

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I mean, if you guys like them fine, thats your list, which I think is a huge distinction. No one will agree on whats #1, or whats better, everyone has their own opinions.

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So post your list. It's not like this is a discussion trying to find the "right" list. Despite my joking comments re: PBob's dislike for YHF, clearly threads like this are for... uh... discussion. So if you have a list quite, quite different than the indie rock stuff, then friggin' post it instead of whining about how you don't know anything on everyone else's list.

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All this indie rock circle jerk-fest are annoying as hell, and thats all I am sayin, and part of the reason I usually avoid these threads is because of how ridiculous they get.

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If you take it so personally when people of similar music taste talk about music that you haven't heard, perhaps you should stop being a giant blubbering vag[/i]ina and either:

A) listen to some of the albums you've never heard of even though they show up in all of these threads

or

B) post YOUR THOUGHTS ON ALBUMS SINCE 1990 so that there's a variety of tastes represented

Talking about non-mainstream music does not equal elitism. Not to mention the fact that a lot of these bands AREN'T EVEN THAT OBSCURE. Modest Mouse, Beck, Weezer, The White Stripes all have had substantial top 40 radio time. Many of these bands have. Many that haven't have shown up on film soundtracks and are recognizable through that.

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The lack of Failure's Fantastic Planet on any list saddens me.

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Good album, not Top 10. There are two Hum albums that are better if you're into that kind of music anyway. And I doubt even those are Top 10 either.

Some obvious choices include:
Nirvana - Nevermind
Nirvana - In Utero
Pearl Jam - Ten
Tool - Undertow
Radiohead - OK Computer
Radiohead - Hail to the Thief

I think Kid A is a great album but I don't know if it's a great rock album.

Some less obvious answers might include:

Leatherface - Mush
Karate - The Bed is in the Ocean
Tom Waits - Mule Variations
Fugazi - Repeater + 3 Songs
Pixies - Doolittle
Sonic Youth - Dirty
Slint - Spiderland
Morphine - Cure for Pain

There are a LOT of others I haven't had time to dig out.

NT

[ceyoung]

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Leatherface - Mush


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i forgot about this one. its good, but it gets old quick. their cover of "true colors" is pretty classic.

[ThaSaltCracka]

I have heard most of the bands listed in this thread, a few I haven't.

As for abums I have liked since 1990

Green Day- Dookie
Nirvana_ Nevermind
Deftones-(whatever the first album is called)
Soundgarden-Superunknown
RHCP- BSSM
Weezer- Blue Album
NIN- Downward Spiral
Oasis-Whats the Story...
Radiohead-OK Compute(maybe my favorite)
Sigur Ros-(first one)
I like both Shins albums
I like Two Incubus albums
Modest Mouses new albums is really good, I also like the new flaming lips album. Jimmy Eat Worlds- Bleed America

I also like some harder stuff, Disturbed-Believe, P.O.D-Satelite, etc.

I dunno, I probably missed a bunch, but rap is my fav anyways.

[Macdaddy Warsaw]

We're talking about opinions here. Anyway, if you read my previous post you'll see that at least two educated people aren't crazy about Nevermind.

I just don't think Nirvana is that great of a band. Although Jack makes fun of Fantastic Planet for sounding a lot like Nevermind, I don't see that, and I think if you spend a little time with the album you'll see they are more musically talented than Nirvana and the songs are just better.

Of course, that's just my opinion.

[ThaSaltCracka]

I will have to check this album out if it supposedly sounds like Nevermind.

Regardless, I think Nevermind is a killer album.

[nothumb]

Oh yeah, I'm a donk, there is no doubt that Jawbreaker's "24 Hour Revenge Therapy" and also "Dear You" belong in this group.

A few others I forgot:

Weezer - Blue Album
Social Distortion - s/t
Hot Water Music - Fuel for the Hate Game (can't believe I left this one off)
Soundgarden - Superunknown

And even though it was released in 88, "Nothing's Shocking" pwns most of your lists. Just want to throw that out.

NT

[Jack of Arcades]

JACK OF ARCADES' TOP ALBUMS OF 1990, TSC STYLE

1. Crazy Town, The Gift of the Game
2. Creed, Human Clay
3. Linkin Park, Hybrid Theory
4. Limp Bizkit, Three Dolla Bill Y'all
5. Staind, Break the Cycle
6. Disturbed, The Sickness
7. Godsmack, Godsmack
8. Silverchair, Frogstomp
9. Drowning Pool, Sinner
10. Papa Roach, Infest
11. Hoobastank, The Reason
12. Insane Clown Posse, The Great Milenko
13. Third Eye Blind, Third Eye Blind
14. Kid Rock, Cocky
15. Uncle Kracker, Double Wide

[uw_madtown]

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I like Two Incubus albums

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Mmm, Incubus. Wouldn't make my official top ten, but I do loves me some Incubus.

Thanks for responding seriously instead of flaming back. Very cool. Any other harder albums you'd put in there? I have had months where I'll get into harder rock and then I usually drop it after awhile, so I don't really know what some of the "best" albums would be.

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I will have to check this album out if it supposedly sounds like Nevermind.

Regardless, I think Nevermind is a killer album.

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It doesn't. Still not a bad record though. "Space rock."

NT

[ThaSaltCracka]

oops, Linkin Park-Hybrid Theory and Silverchairs-Frogstomp, are pretty good IMO. The rest, I don't like at all.

[Macdaddy Warsaw]

It's possible I listened to Fantastic Planet before Nevermind. I just think I didn't get into Nirvana because I didn't want to because everybody else was listening to them. Snobbish, yes, but like...whatever. Good, possibly great, but like...in my opinion, eventually meh.

I guess it just has the YHF quality. The songs are so clean and listenable that it just loses it's appeal for me.

Also, I'm a prick and a snob.

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I just don't think Nirvana is that great of a band. Although Jack makes fun of Fantastic Planet for sounding a lot like Nevermind, I don't see that, and I think if you spend a little time with the album you'll see they are more musically talented than Nirvana and the songs are just better.


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I disagree, and I went through a serious Hum / Failure phase. I think Failure's songs grow repetitive and the lyrics are often less interesting. I think In Utero, Nevermind, You'd Prefer an Astronaut, and Electra 2000 are all distinctly better albums, and Downward is Heavenward may be, as well.

So actually, I may have spent a little TOO much time with Failure.

NT

[ThaSaltCracka]

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Any other harder albums you'd put in there?

[/ QUOTE ]Maybe some Korn? Thrice? I dunno, to be honest with you, I don't like many hard rock CD's that much, more like specific songs.

[nothumb]

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i forgot about this one. its good, but it gets old quick.

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What? As punk albums go this one is worth a lot of listens, some great melodies and really good lyrics.

[ QUOTE ]
their cover of "true colors" is pretty classic.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think Leatherface is one of the few punk bands where I enjoy their covers, because there is really nothing ironic about them. Frankie Stubbs is singin' a Cyndi Lauper song, and he means every bit of it.

I have a great live version of "Fools Rush In" from them as well.

NT

[Macdaddy Warsaw]

Well, at least we're being civil. I think my lack of appreciation of Hum comes from the fact that I can't get good quality recordings of it. I actually own the CDs too, but I guess when I ripped them I didn't store them at high quality (this is way back when lossless didn't exist, not that I use lossless now).

The sad thing is, I downloaded some Hum songs, and they sound the same, and I was like...AAGHHHH, DAMMIT.

Anyway, Hum is great, I like Failure more, and Another Space Song is one of my favorite songs ever, as is Dirty Blue Balloons.

EDIT: I also happen to be ignoring everything off Magnified, which is a great grunge CD too. Undone, Empty Friend, and Small Crimes are all great. And you can't argue with lyrics like, "Whatever turns you on is fine with me as long as, I just don't get wet"

[Jack of Arcades]

Deftones - Adrenaline.

It's a pretty good list that I either own or have listened to most of them. They just don't really make the cut for me, at least not top 20. Maybe OK Computer or a Flaming Lips album or something.

I listen to a lot of music. I just feel that the best stuff just happens to be some of the most obscure; there's a correlation in my mind, but no actual causation.

Anyway, for me to work out a top 20 would take probably weeks. So I won't bother. I do know, however, that Fuel's Sunburn would be near the top...

[ThaSaltCracka]

I have heard the criticism before that Nirvana was to simple a band, but I think thats part of what made them so great, just raw energy and emotion. Bar-bones punk/alt/grunge rock. Basically music without the gloss.

[uw_madtown]

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JACK OF ARCADES' TOP ALBUMS OF 1990, TSC STYLE

1. Crazy Town, The Gift of the Game
2. Creed, Human Clay
3. Linkin Park, Hybrid Theory
4. Limp Bizkit, Three Dolla Bill Y'all
5. Staind, Break the Cycle
6. Disturbed, The Sickness
7. Godsmack, Godsmack
8. Silverchair, Frogstomp
9. Drowning Pool, Sinner
10. Papa Roach, Infest
11. Hoobastank, The Reason
12. Insane Clown Posse, The Great Milenko
13. Third Eye Blind, Third Eye Blind
14. Kid Rock, Cocky
15. Uncle Kracker, Double Wide

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I have 9 of these albums in my collection. I really, really like 4 of them, and somewhat enjoy 2 more. I leave it to you to decide which.

[thatpfunk]

There have been some really good ones listed so far...

I'll try my best to give some more respect to the past and build a more comprehensive list. (Edit as I'm making it: this list gets real crowded, real fast. There are some that you just cannot deny...)

1. Weezer- Blue album
1,5. Nirvana- Nevermind
3. Smashing Pumpkins- Siamese Dream
4. Bright Eyes- Fevers and Mirrors
5. RHCP- Blood, Sugar, Sex, Magik
6. The White Stripes- Elephant
7. Radiohead- OK Computer
8. Sublime- 40oz to Freedom
9. Pearl Jam- Ten
10. The Shins- OIW
11. Modest Mouse- Lonesome Crowded West
12. Bon Jovi- Cross Road
13. Pennywise- About Time
14. Green Day- Dookie
15. Oasis- What's the Story (Morning Glory)
16. Belle and Sebastion- Dear Catastrophe Waitress
17. Offspring- Smash
18. Soundgarden- Superunknown
19. Autolux- Future Perfect
20. Ambulance LTD.- Ambulance LTD.


Left off some that I really wanted to add and some that are probably very deserving (GNR- Use Your Illusion, etc)

[ThaSaltCracka]

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Deftones - Adrenaline.

[/ QUOTE ] there we go, yes, sick record. I would play it right now, but its to late.

[Jack of Arcades]

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oops, Linkin Park-Hybrid Theory and Silverchairs-Frogstomp, are pretty good IMO. The rest, I don't like at all.

[/ QUOTE ]

I didn't expect you to like them, just throwing out some shitty mainstream rock albums of the last 15 years.

[ceyoung]

his voice doesn't change at all during the songs. so i just get tired of it. i saw them in concert about 8 years ago and it just made me want to goto sleep. once i got the cd's, i thought they were much better.

[Jack of Arcades]

OK, I'm gonna guess...

Frogstomp, Sickness, Hybrid Theory, Break the Cycle.

[ThaSaltCracka]

[censored]! I KNEW I MISSED A FEW!!

Sublime-40 oz and self tilted
Smashing Pumpkins-etc
RATM- First two!!!

[ThaSaltCracka]

I really like that Silverchair CD, and what can I say, Linkin Park is my guilty pleasure.

[Jack of Arcades]

I hate Frogstomp, but Neon Ballroom might crack my top 20.

[nothumb]

Same thing happened to me when I ripped my Hum CDs years ago. Sucks.

NT

[uw_madtown]

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OK, I'm gonna guess...

Frogstomp, Sickness, Hybrid Theory, Break the Cycle.

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2 more. Although I was wrong -- one of them is a different album by one of the bands listed.

[nothumb]

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i saw them in concert about 8 years ago and it just made me want to goto sleep.

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Was that the reunion tour with HWM? I wanted to go to that but was not able. Who knows what affect age and emo had on those guys. Their best two albums were unquestionably the first two full-lengths, although I also like Horsebox a lot.

Point taken about his voice. Not a lot of dynamic range.

NT

[ceyoung]

they played a show with the dillinger 4 and avail at bottom of the hill in SF. we only really went to see the dillinger 4, but stuck around after they opened.

i add Dillinger 4's Midwestern Songs of the America's

[thatpfunk]

Dammit, I forgot Odelay, I think that gets Ambulance bumped out. It probably goes around 10-13 on my list.

Also, I think way too much weight is being put on music of the last 5 years. In no way is my list a "Top 20 albums I want to listen to" it is Best Rock Albums. I think there is a drastic difference between the two.

[Jack of Arcades]

It's just what's fresh in our minds. 50% of my collection comes from the past 3 years.

[bugstud]

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It's just what's fresh in our minds. 50% of my collection comes from the past 3 years.

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so what's the difference between rock alternative and metal anyway, here. Because am I deluded in thinking that metallica's black album or either of the 2 STP albums should have been mentioned by now? or G 'n R Use your illusion I/II?

[Jack of Arcades]

Eh? I'm using a pretty broad definition of "Rock." Just about anything that isn't overtly rap fits, I think, otherwise I would've mentioned Blazing Arrow.

I'm just not a fan of Metallica or GNR. Definitely not a fan of STP.

[thatpfunk]

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Because am I deluded in thinking that metallica's black album or either of the 2 STP albums should have been mentioned by now? or G 'n R Use your illusion I/II?

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Dammit, STP- Purple definetly deserves its spot. Mad I forgot that, the cd is excellent. Black album and UYI I/II were left off of mine as I think they are 20-35 range (not a metallica fan, and it is one of their worst albums IMHO).

[bugstud]

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Because am I deluded in thinking that metallica's black album or either of the 2 STP albums should have been mentioned by now? or G 'n R Use your illusion I/II?

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Dammit, STP- Purple definetly deserves its spot. Mad I forgot that, the cd is excellent. Black album and UYI I/II were left off of mine as I think they are 20-35 range (not a metallica fan, and it is one of their worst albums IMHO).

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I'm not saying it's their best work, but to put 3 311 albums on a list over these seems criminal.

[thatpfunk]

I have no 311 on my list, I dislike them immensely.

[plaster8]

I'm old and tilt a little toward butt rock at times. There, I admit it.

That said, here's my list.

1. Saturation -- Urge Overkill
2. Magic and Loss -- Lou Reed
3. Exile in Guyville -- Liz Phair
4. When I was Born for the Seventh Time -- Cornershop
5. Girlfriend -- Matthew Sweet
6. Hoist -- Phish
7. So Much for the Afterglow -- Everclear
8. Live at the Greek -- Jimmy Page & The Black Crowes
9. Achtung Baby -- U2
10. Throwing Copper -- Live
11. Evil Empire -- Rage Against The Machine
12. Somewhere Between Heaven and Hell -- Social Distortion
13. Destination Failure -- The Smoking Popes
14. Permission to Land -- The Darkness
15. Rubber Factory -- The Black Keys

[nothumb]

Okay, since I have spent so much time discussing this, I will actually attempt to put these albums in order.

Nothumb's Top 10 Rock Albums Since 1990

Albums that don't qualify due to not being rock, but still rule:

Morphine - Cure For Pain
Radiohead - Kid A

Albums released pre-1990 that I wish came out yesterday because they own all you fanboys:

Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking
The Pogues - Rum, Sodomy and the Lash
Leatherface - Cherry Knowle

Honorable Mentions

Hum - You'd Prefer an Astronaut
Beck - Sea Change
Shiner - Lula Divinia
June of 44 - Four Great Points
The Promise Ring - Nothing Feels Good
Nirvana - In Utero
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream

Albums it really, really hurts to leave off, but I had to:

The Pixies - Doolittle
Sonic Youth - Dirty
Soundgarden - Superunknown
Tool - Undertow
Pearl Jam - Ten
Weezer - Blue Album

Number 11

Radiohead - Hail to the Thief
This record was very exciting when it came out and I must say, it stands the test of time. It didn't break the new ground of 'OK Computer' or make the potentially career-ending genre leaps of 'Kid A,' but rather bears the marks of all these albums, all these experiences, and more. A fine example of a band that has aged phenomenally well.

Finally, the Top Ten:

10. Red Hot Chili Peppers - Blood Sugar Sex Magik
The Chili Peppers have always had their limitations. Well, two, really - heroin and their lead singer. Anthony Kiedis brings the vocal versatility of a monkey in heat, and lyrically this band is, again, fun but limited. However, the will of this band to make fun, funky music in an era of self-hate, self-pity and self-importance is what really rescues them. That, and their awesome bass player, suprisingly good guitar melodies (given the mortality rate of six-string men in this group) and solid drumming. This album was their tour-de-force, the sort of Black Album for funk-punk as a genre. A perfect melding of good production, songwriting, and energy. Great ballads and party anthems, with just the right balance. Nothing before or since can compare.

9. Leatherface - Mush
Perhaps I'm being stubborn, insisting on including this little album that could on the charts with the big boys. Leatherface are misfits in both the punk and indie rock universes. Punk purists hear the Smiths with distortion and an unintelligible accent, while today's indie rock fans hear a grouchy old man with the same vocal settings as a jackhammer - 'off' and 'loud.' But Leatherface made smarter political punk than the purists and dealt with personal/philosophical topics more searingly and directly than any emo band ever could. Their best albums walk that fine line perfectly.

8. Hot Water Music - Fuel for the Hate Game
Yet another dated, incredibly earnest post-punk band that ol' Thumb is foisting on us. Fine, I'll own up to that. But any post-punk band named after a work of C. Bukowski deserves a place on my list. The thing is, Hot Water Music could easily have been a pop-punk band - catchy melodies, sing-along choruses, optimism and unity. They had it all. But before they almost made that leap, with albums like "Forever and Counting" and "No Division," there was this brooding, blue-collar album. This is the last record they made with the taste of a real job fresh in their mouths.

7. Tom Waits - Mule Variations
Tom Waits refuses to let the singer-songwriter die, fade into homosexual oblivion or become warmed over and trite. He just keeps making beautiful, bizarre, and consistently brilliant albums. 'Mule Variations' has the trademark weirdness ("Eyeball Kid," "What's He Building"), as well as those guaranteed, heart-tugging ballads ("Hold On," "House Where Nobody Lives"), a dash of raunch ("Filipino Box Spring Hog"), a touch of religious silliness ("Chocolate Jesus") and one overwhelming, existential finale to tie it all together ("Come on Up to the House").

6. Jawbreaker - 24 Hour Revenge Therapy
While many would take the more polished 'Dear You' for their favorite Jawbreaker record, I would argue that this short and sweet album signifies the moment in which Blake Schwarzenbach found that perfect balance between punk angst, Beat awe, and melodic sensibility. Punk rock looking back on itself and letting out a big sigh (followed by a hacking cough.)

5. Guns and fucking Roses - Appetite for Destruction
Really, shame on all of you for not putting this on your lists. I move that the profanity filter be modified to allow this one particular use of the f-bomb, because there's no other way to say 'rock and roll.' This was hungry, snarling, swaggering white-boy rock in all its decadent glory. Welcome to the Jungle, bitches.

4. Fugazi -Repeater +3 Songs
It's probably cheating to put this reissue, with a 3-song EP included, in as a 1990's release. I don't care, because it's the best Fugazi album you can get. This CD alone is enough of a free pass for Ian McKaye to be an arrogant, self-absorbed prick for the rest of his life as far as I'm concerned. This is post-punk as it should be: rhythmically challenging, dynamic, smart and angry. Before you can mention any indie rock album of the last 8 years, you need to pay homage to the original.

3.Nirvana - Nevermind
What can I say? It changed the world. Sure, the pieces are there in a few other bands of the same time period. But this put it all together. I couldn't even listen to this album for about five years because it was so ubiquitous. Then, one night, we put it on at work in the middle of the biggest pizza frenzy you've seen in your life. And it still kicks ass. The songs stand the test of time, and what this album did for rock music does too.

2. Radiohead - OK Computer
The album that Coldplay has built an entire career around.

1. Slint - Spiderland
If you can somehow regress to high school, turn out all the lights in your bedroom, and listen to this album in pitch blackness, you won't argue. Ask all your precious indie rock bands of today who their daddy is.

Thanks for reading,
NT

[Macdaddy Warsaw]

Huggles for mentioning Fuel for the Hate Game.

<font color="white"> Also, I wanted to put somewhere in OOT that I bowled a 220 today. Huzzah. And yes, that is high variance bowling. </font>

[bdk3clash]

"The Bottle Rockets-The Brooklyn Side"

You, sir, are my hero.

[thatpfunk]

Nice list + explanations.

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2. Radiohead - OK Computer
The album that Coldplay has built an entire career around.

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All too true. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[bdk3clash]

"Appetite for Destruction" came out in 1987.

[bugstud]

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5. Guns and [censored] Roses - Appetite for Destruction
Really, shame on all of you for not putting this on your lists. I move that the profanity filter be modified to allow this one particular use of the f-bomb, because there's no other way to say 'rock and roll.' This was hungry, snarling, swaggering white-boy rock in all its decadent glory. Welcome to the Jungle, bitches.

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1987 is not after 1990...otherwise it's in my top 3

EDIT - bested by a couple of seconds, blast

[nothumb]

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"Appetite for Destruction" came out in 1987.

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D'oh. For some reason when I searched it, it came up as 1990. I was so excited I didn't even double check.

Ok, replace it with the Blue Album.

Sigh.

NT

[Chairman Wood]

Well I think you nailed it with:
#1: Yankee Hotel Foxtrot by Wilco
#2: Nevermind by Nirvana

Although I would evaluate Nevermind as being far more influential and just all around better than YHF. From your list I would say that you are missing the last two Outkast albums. Also I am very happy to see another Pavement fan. Although, Slanted and Enchanted seems to be the more critically acclaimed album, I am partial to Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain.

Well I'm so drunk, in the August sun, and you're the kind of girl I like, cause you're empty and I'm empty, and you can never quarantine the past.

[thatpfunk]

You put UYI I/II that low?

[craig r]

These are in no particular order:

1)Fugazi-Repeater
2)Shellac-1000 Hurts
3)Nation Of Ulysses-Plays Pretty For Baby
4)Bright Eyes-Fevers and Mirrors
5)Bright Eyes-Digital Ash in a Digital Urn
6)Girls Against Boys-Venus Luxure #1 Baby

Damn, I know there are so many more..but these are the only ones that come to mind right now.

craig

[nothumb]

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You put UYI I/II that low?

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Not as good as Appetite. If you took the best material from 1 and 2 and put it on one CD it's one of the three or four best rock albums EVAR.

NT

[uw_madtown]

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From your list I would say that you are missing the last two Outkast albums.

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No rap/hip-hop per CMI's nitty rules. Although I think a strong argument could be made for The Love Below. Not for Stankonia or Speakerboxxx though.

Trust me, I'd have a LOT more albums under consideration, and OutKast would be up there.

[uw_madtown]

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5)Bright Eyes-Digital Ash in a Digital Urn

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Putting this on a list before Lifted or I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning... pure blasphemy. You must be high.

I mean, it's a good album, but it's easily fourth as far as the big BE albums go.

[jason_t]

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No rap/hip-hop per CMI's nitty rules. Although I think a strong argument could be made for The Love Below. Not for Stankonia or Speakerboxxx though.

Trust me, I'd have a LOT more albums under consideration, and OutKast would be up there.

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Hahaha. CMI is a nit.

[craig r]

Lyrically I think it is their best album. I mean, come on, it is the "redemption" album. Plus, good timing in my life. Plus, I am so burnt on I'm Wide Awake. I had heard all the songs for a while before the album came out.

craig

[Willluck]

Lets start it off by saying Nirvana is the most overrated band since the Beatles. Don't get me wrong, both are decent bands, but there are just so many better bands that don't get nearly as much credit.

My top Ten (none, i feel, are particularly better or worse, and they are all just in order as they come out.):

Tool - Aenima
Tool - Lateralus
Smashing Pumpkins - Melancholy and Infinite Sadness
Alice in Chains - Dirt
Alice in Chains - Jar of Flies
Korn - Life is Peachy
Rage Against the Machine - RATM
Audioslave - Audioslave
Soundgarden - Superunknown
Godsmack - Godsmack

[nothumb]

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Godsmack - Godsmack

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I knew there was no reason to keep reading that post.

NT

[thatpfunk]

I think putting two albums by the same band is a gross mistake.

[whiskeytown]

I picked Whiskeytown for a screen name after Pneunomia -

Uncle Tupelo's March 16th-20th is pretty goddamn good too.

RB

[uw_madtown]

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#1: Yankee Hotel Foxtrot by Wilco
#2: Nevermind by Nirvana

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#3: Is This It by The Strokes
#4: Kid A by Radiohead
#5: Gimme Fiction* by Spoon
#6: Weezer by Weezer
#7: Chutes Too Narrow by The Shins
#8: Dookie by Green Day
#9: Rage Against the Machine by Rage Against the Machine
#10: White Blood Cells by The White Stripes

Five Honorable Mentions: Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots by The Flaming Lips, Slanted &amp; Enchanted by Pavement, Odelay! by Beck, (What's the Story) Morning Glory? by Oasis, and The Moon &amp; Antarctica by Modest Mouse.

There's like twenty albums that could fit into the HM category, especially since I avoided doubling up on artists, and since I didn't put in any rap / hip-hop.

*Yes, Gimme Fiction is brand new. I think it's that fu[/i]cking good. If it weren't Gimme Fiction, it'd be Kill the Moonlight.

[Anders_G]

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My list looks similar to yours, as well as

Pearl Jam - Ten
Tool - Lateralus/Aenima
Weezer - Pinkerton
The Shins - CTN or OIW, depending on mood
The Arcade Fire - Funeral
Belle and Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister
Elliott Smith - XO
The New Pornographers - Electric Version
R.E.M. - Out of Time
Spiritualized - Let it Come Down

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How the hell is Belle &amp; Sebastian considered rock?

[zephed]

Alright, this is "one of those threads", but I'll butt in and give you my version. Warning you wankers, there will be some "shitty" mainstream rock. Whatever, suck it bitches.

#1-Led Zeppelin-How the West Was Won
Rock 'n' roll would be in a completely different place today wihout them.

Fantastic live album, they were ON. Exciting improv/jams/medleys/covers.

All others unordered

-Stone Temple Pilots-Purple

-White Stripes-Elephant, probably. I like De Stijl better though, only because of the old blues cover.

-The Black Crowes-Shake Your Moneymaker
I love this album. Nothing groundbreaking or innovative, sorry.

-Rage Against The Machine-Rage Against The Machine
WOWOWOWOWOWOWOW, Tom Morello is great, Tom Morello is good.
Killer riffs.

-Green Day-Dookie

-Sublime-Sublime
Dead on arrival. 40 oz. to Freedom is good too, but this one has more popular appeal.

-Red Hot Chili Peppers-Both Blood Sugar Sex Magik and Californication

-John Paul Jones-Zooma
Here's my obscure pick for you indielovinlookatmenamedropthisbandnooneknowsaboutb utthisisdefinitelythebestalbumever ootards. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[tomahawk]

I have too agree here. Belle and Seb are great, (especially "If your...") but rock?

Same for both Shins albums and all Elliot Smith, although I'm inclined to say that these two last mentions is better than anything a pure rock list can come up with (slightly overstated, but they are THAT good). Madtown, about your Shins discussion, I totally agree. IMO "Chutes.." is just much more exiting and varied, musically and lyrically.

Other than that I'm surprised so few has mentioned The Bends, in this list it really should be way ahead of Kid A. I'm also pretty sure Lateralus, Siamese Dream, RATM and Nevermind should be in there.

Noone feels The Downward Spiral by NiN deserves a mention?
Anyone heard of a Norwegian band called Motorpsycho?

[PokerBob]

.....dig up some of Tweedy's old songs with Uncle Tupelo like "Gun", "The Long Cut" and "Screen Door", and you will see how much the mighy have fallen.

[sfer]

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.....dig up some of Tweedy's old songs with Uncle Tupelo like "Gun", "The Long Cut" and "Screen Door", and you will see how much the mighy have fallen.

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Whatever. I love that CD and I could care less what you think about it.

[PokerBob]

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Whatever. I hate that CD and I could care less what you think about it.

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[IndieMatty]

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Man you're super bitter at the turn from Alt-Country. It's ok man, Uncle Tupelo was a great band too.

[PokerBob]

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Man you're super bitter at the turn from Alt-Country. It's ok man, Uncle Tupelo was a great band too.

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Wrong. I like Summerteeth and A Ghost is Born, which aren't alt-country at all.

[Aces McGee]

In addition to a lot of albums already mentioned ("Superunknown" and "Purple" come to mind), Faith No More's "The Real Thing" deserves a place in my top ten.

-McGee

[IndieMatty]

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Man you're super bitter at the turn from Alt-Country. It's ok man, Uncle Tupelo was a great band too.

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Wrong. I like Summerteeth and A Ghost is Born, which aren't alt-country at all.

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I can't fathom why you don't like YHF. It's definitely one of the best albums in the last 5 years. That's weird.

[uw_madtown]

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Man you're super bitter at the turn from Alt-Country. It's ok man, Uncle Tupelo was a great band too.

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Wrong. I like Summerteeth and A Ghost is Born, which aren't alt-country at all.

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I can't fathom why you don't like YHF. It's definitely one of the best albums in the last 5 years. That's wrong.

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FYP.

[IndieMatty]

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Man you're super bitter at the turn from Alt-Country. It's ok man, Uncle Tupelo was a great band too.

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Wrong. I like Summerteeth and A Ghost is Born, which aren't alt-country at all.

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I can't fathom why you don't like YHF. It's definitely one of the best albums in the last 5 years. That's wrong.

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FYP.

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I'm just happy I haven't seen you throw 3 Doors Down in this thread. /images/graemlins/grin.gif


(I'm pretty sure that's you who list's that craptastic band--if not; apologies)

[uw_madtown]

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.....dig up some of Tweedy's old songs with Uncle Tupelo like "Gun", "The Long Cut" and "Screen Door", and you will see how much the mighy have fallen.

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Man you're super bitter at the turn from Alt-Country. It's ok man, Uncle Tupelo was a great band too.

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Wrong. I like Summerteeth and A Ghost is Born, which aren't alt-country at all.

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I can't fathom why you don't like YHF. It's definitely one of the best albums in the last 5 years. That's wrong.

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FYP.

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I'm just happy I haven't seen you throw 3 Doors Down in this thread. /images/graemlins/grin.gif


(I'm pretty sure that's you who list's that craptastic band--if not; apologies)

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I said I'd listened to the album, not that I even remotely liked it.

[IndieMatty]

I'm just happy I haven't seen you throw 3 Doors Down in this thread. /images/graemlins/grin.gif


(I'm pretty sure that's you who list's that craptastic band--if not; apologies)

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I said I'd listened to the album, not that I even remotely liked it.

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Then it's not you. Someone really likes them who post's about music.

[uw_madtown]

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I'm just happy I haven't seen you throw 3 Doors Down in this thread. /images/graemlins/grin.gif


(I'm pretty sure that's you who list's that craptastic band--if not; apologies)

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I said I'd listened to the album, not that I even remotely liked it.

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Then it's not you. Someone really likes them who post's about music.

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Dead? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

I guess CMI IS listed as a Sub-Human retard now. Maybe it's him.

[Sifmole]

You need to expand your horizons.

[IndieMatty]

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JACK OF ARCADES' TOP ALBUMS OF 1990, TSC STYLE

1. Crazy Town, The Gift of the Game
2. Creed, Human Clay
3. Linkin Park, Hybrid Theory
4. Limp Bizkit, Three Dolla Bill Y'all
5. Staind, Break the Cycle
6. Disturbed, The Sickness
7. Godsmack, Godsmack
8. Silverchair, Frogstomp
9. Drowning Pool, Sinner
10. Papa Roach, Infest
11. Hoobastank, The Reason
12. Insane Clown Posse, The Great Milenko
13. Third Eye Blind, Third Eye Blind
14. Kid Rock, Cocky
15. Uncle Kracker, Double Wide

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You both are totally underestimating each other. And don't diss Third Eye Blind.

[steelcmg]

Must have slayer God Hates Us ALL

[gvibes]

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Wrong. I like Summerteeth and A Ghost is Born, which aren't alt-country at all.

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I think that Summerteeth was kind of transitional for Wilco.

I need to buy more Uncle Tupelo - all I have is Anodyne. ("Long Cut" is sweet).

Also, good to see the Hum references - I forgot to put them in my lists - the pride of Chambana and the U of I school of engineering (well, them, Tom Siebel, Larry Ellison, and Marc Andreeson).

[jason_t]

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Being There and Summerteeth [were awesome], but YHFT just is way too cute. Tweedy has lost touch, IMHO.

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Wrong. I like [...] A Ghost is Born, which [isn't] alt-country at all.

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[Jack of Arcades]

I was just taking cheapshots at him.

[razor]

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I can't fathom why you don't like YHF. It's definitely one of the best albums in the last 5 years. That's weird.

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No, what's weird is I own the damn CD, listened to it at most 3 times and have no opinion on it.

Time to give the album a proper listen.

[DMBFan23]

I'll throw my top 10 out there, and get flamed.

In no particular order,

U2 - Achtung Baby
Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
Dave Matthews Band - Before These Crowded Streets
Metallica - The Black Album
Green Day - Dookie
Radiohead - The Bends
Smashing Pumpkins - Mellon Collie and The Infinite Sadness
Bush - Sixteen Stone
Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory
Pearl Jam - Ten

A lot of the bands I listen to aren't on this list (The Shins, Martin Sexton, more Dave, Flaming Lips, Massive Attack, Led Zeppelin, etc) but these are pretty damn great albums since 1990

[Patrick del Poker Grande]

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I'll throw my top 10 out there, and get flamed.

In no particular order,

U2 - Achtung Baby
Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
Dave Matthews Band - Before These Crowded Streets
Metallica - The Black Album
Green Day - Dookie
Radiohead - The Bends
Smashing Pumpkins - Mellon Collie and The Infinite Sadness
Bush - Sixteen Stone
Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory
Pearl Jam - Ten

A lot of the bands I listen to aren't on this list (The Shins, Martin Sexton, more Dave, Flaming Lips, Massive Attack, Led Zeppelin, etc) but these are pretty damn great albums since 1990

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People who name themselves after DMB don't get a say in any discussion about good music.