Cryptologic FAQs (rough draft)

[Cubswin]

very very rough draft.... there have been so many questions floating around lately that i thought there might be a need to put all the questions in one place. I dont have all the answers so i look for input and information from everyone so we can get a FAQ page that's all prettied up. There are obviously some holes in the info here so hit me with the missing info. Also post any questions you think i failed to cover......


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How many CryptoLogic skins are there?

There are 10 CryptoLogic poker rooms:

William Hill www.williamhillpoker.com (http://www.williamhillpoker.com)
InterPoker www.interpoker.com (http://www.interpoker.com)
Littlewoods www.littlewoodspoker.com (http://www.littlewoodspoker.com)
Caribbean Sun www.caribbeansunpoker.com (http://www.caribbeansunpoker.com)
Ritz Club www.theritzclublondon.com (http://www.theritzclublondon.com)
Betfair www.betfairpoker.com (http://www.betfairpoker.com)
UK Betting www.ukbettingpoker.co.uk (http://www.ukbettingpoker.co.uk)
Totalbet www.totalbet.com/poker (http://www.totalbet.com/poker)
Poker Plex www.pokerplex.com (http://www.pokerplex.com)
Classic Poker www.classicpoker.com (http://www.classicpoker.com)


Which of these poker rooms allow American players?

All of them except Ritz Club and Betfair


Who long will it take for me to receive my PIN?

Generally it takes 5-10 business days to receive your PIN. Sometimes it may take a bit longer. Once you receive your PIN cash outs are hassle free and hit your Neteller account in about 3 days. Will Hill uses a separate cashier system so you will not need a pin.. (I don’t have accounts at littlewoods, ritz, betfair or classic… so someone please let me know what the procedure is for these places)


Which sites offer the hourly bonus?

Will Hill, UK Betting, Totalbet, and Ritz Club all offer 5 pounds per hour for your first 5 hours of play at the site each and every month. If you play more then 1 table at a time you will get credited for each table you play an hour. When signing up at Will Hill, be sure to indicate that you would like your account to be in pounds rather then dollars to get the maximum bonus. You do not have to clear these bonuses at pound tables.


Will I get paid for partial hours?

At Will Hill you do indeed get paid for partial hours. At UK Betting, Totalbet and Ritz Club???? You will only get paid if the games are played at Limit 1/2 and above and NL/PL .5/1 and above????


I played for an hour and I have not gotten paid?

Leave the table(s) and your money will show up in your account.


Which sites offer a monthly bonus for the completion of a certain number of hands played?

Interpoker = up $90, 100% match bonus on your first deposit of the month. You must play 8x the bonus for it to be released. $90 bonus requires 720 raked hands. To clear this promotion the hands must be played at 1/2 Limit or 0.5/1 or NL/PL or above. Deposit IS required for this bonus. This bonus can also be cleared casino side by wagering $2250. Pontoon offers the lowest house edge and perfect play strategy can be found here (http://wizardofodds.com/pontoon )

Littlewoods = 5 pounds for 250 hands played. To clear this promotion the hands must be played at 1/2 Limit or 0.5/1 or NL/PL or above. No deposit is required for this bonus.

Caribbean Sun = $40 for 500 raked hands played. Note: In order for a Raked Hand to count toward releasing the bonus money, $0.25 or more in rake must be generated in the hand. No deposit is required for this bonus.

Poker Plex = $50 for 300 raked hands. Hands must be played at 1/2 limit or .5/1 NL/PL or above. No deposit is required for this bonus.


Which sites offer a one-off, first-time deposit bonus?

Caribbean Sun = 100%, $50 max, 250 hands to clear. In order for a Raked Hand to count toward releasing the bonus money, $0.25 or more in rake must be generated in the hand. This bonus can be cleared concurrently with the monthly bonus. So your first month of playing here would get you $90 for 500 raked hands.

Classic Poker = 25%, $100 max, 500 raked hands to clear. (im not sure at what level these hands have to be played or if they need to be raked…. Anyone?)


I cashed out to Neteller from a site where my account is calculated in pounds and i think I was shorted. What gives?

If your transfer transaction involves a currency conversion, the exchange rate that NETELLER applies is an average daily inter-bank market rate published by a third party foreign currency data provider plus 1.9%. NETELLER retains this amount as a foreign exchange processing fee.

More discussion about this here (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2570193&page=1&view=colla psed&sb=5&o=14&fpart=all&vc=1)


I have “Poker Points” at a Cyrpto site, what can they be used for?

Some sites offer a point system and they can be used to buy into tournaments that generally run on weekends. Go to the Multi-table Tournament tab to see if there is one that is going to be run. It typically is 1000 points to enter a $10 tournament and 2000 points to enter a $20 one???


I just left a table and my money does not show up in the cashier window, what gives?

There is sometimes a glitch in Crypto’s software and money may be stuck in transit. Don’t panic, simply go to an empty table a attempt to down and your money should magically appear. I have not had this problem in awhile so it might have been fixed.


How do I keep track of the number of raked hands that I play?

There is a raked hand counter that is available free of charge at??? ( I don’t have the link…anyone)


I received a match bonus at Interpoker and tried to clear it casino-side. I busted before reaching the wager requirement, does this carry over to the next month?

Yes (I think…anyone)


I busted out a number of months in a row, at Intercasino how will I know how much I have to wager?

I don’t think there is a way to figure this out….. will support tell you???


How do I keep track of how much I have wagered in the casino?

I use pen and paper and make etch marks every number of hands.


UK Betting and Totalbet also offer a monthly deposit casino bonus that appears in the cashier window of my poker application. Can American’s get this bonus?

The Terms and Conditions of both of these sites say that Americans can not play in their casino. Some have reported that they have been able to play in it. I do not recommend doing this. If you do not play in the casino this bonus will forever be ‘stuck’ on your cashier screen.


How do I get a hold of support for X site?

Barrage me with know email addys and phone numbers please…. And Ecash direct’s info too….


Who is ECash Direct?

ECash Direct is the banking end of all the Crypto sites except for Will Hill, who use their own system.. (again… I don’t know about classic poker, ritz, and betfair… someone fill me in)

[Jim Kuhn]

Great job Cubs. When questions are completed a sticky will be in order.

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
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[2easy]

a few things i might be able to help you with cubs:

betfair is at some point going to allow u.s. players.

pin is auto generated upon your first deposit, u dont have to request it, (this seems to be asked a lot.)

at will hill, u get the pounds/hour bonus even if you have a dollars account. (even though it indicates otherwise, this has been my firsthand experience.)

pokerplex bonus has been paid at 300 hands played, even though they say raked, (dont know for how much longer this will remain that way.)

this is the link for the free crypto hand counter:

http://www.cryptocounter.com/

[BOTW]

How do I keep track of how much I have wagered in the casino?

InterCasino has a log viewer under "more games". I don't know how long the log stays active or if all the casinos have it.

[Uglyowl]

Nice work, thanks for throwing this together.

[PollyEmory]

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How do I keep track of how much I have wagered in the casino?

InterCasino has a log viewer under "more games". I don't know how long the log stays active or if all the casinos have it.

[/ QUOTE ]

You can configure it. The default is 100 sessions and 30 days I think.

--Polly

[toss]

I love you.

[HesseJam]

CaribbeanSun is also 500 hand played and not raked even though their terms suggest otherwise. At least this is the case for me.

It is advisable to wait with clearing the Interpoker bonus until Interpoker comes up with the additional 30$ bonus which counts simultanously towards the raked hands requirement with the 90$ bonus (it was like this the last two months). Also, there are frequently other promos where you get 10$ if your starting hand is JJ, QQ, KK or AA. These promos run for a weekend and you get this money simultaneously during the bonus clearance.
In the past, if you cleared, let's say the January bonus in the beginning of the month and waited out on the February bonus until late of the month, Interpoker lured you in with an additional 10$ or 20$ buck bonus for your first raked hand.

[HesseJam]

Oh, and nice work, Cubs!

[BigBluffer]

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Littlewoods = 5 pounds for 250 hands played. To clear this promotion the hands must be played at 1/2 Limit or 0.5/1 or NL/PL or above. No deposit is required for this bonus.

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Probably just a typo, but the bonus is 25 GBP for 250 hands played. I've done this one the last 2 months.

Does Classic Poker have a monthly bonus?

Great work on the FAQ.

[parappa]

-UKB, Totalbet and Ritz Club pay for partial hours.

You forgot something on the order of:

Q: How do I tell if the hourly bonus has shown up in my TotalBet, UKBetting, or Ritz Club account if I'm playing dollar tables and my account is in Pounds?

A: When you buy into your dollar table, a popup will come on the screen telling you "You are about to purchase $X worth of chips at a cost of £Y." The easiest way to deal with this is to:

-figure out the exchange rate by dividing the amount of dollar chips you get and the amount of pounds it costs you. (it's usually about 1.8 dollars to the pound right now)
-When you're done playing on the table, make a note of how many dollars you've won or lost (let's assume you've lost $18 to make the math easy)
-Convert that into pounds ($18 makes £10)
-Add/subtract the amount you've won/lost from the starting amount of money in your account (If you bought in for £100, you'll now have £90)
-Compare the amount of money you should have in your account with the amount of money you actually do have in your account. If it is £25 higher, you've cleared all five hourly bonuses

...or something to that effect less horribly written.


-Support: Attempting to communicate with support is essentially useless. I've never had an email to support answered. Calling isn't much better.

-Ritz uses E-cash and Betfair use their own.

[parappa]

Sorry, one more:

Q: I've played five hours but I haven't received the emails telling me I've cleared the hourly bonus. What gives?

A: The only foolproof way to tell if you've gotten the bonus is to keep track of the money in your account. Sometimes the emails come immediately after you clear each hourly bonus, sometimes they come a day or two later, and sometimes they never come. While it is useful to use the emails as a way of verifying that you've cleared all five bonuses (sometimes the last one requires you to go somewhat over five hours), they are unreliable.

[BigBluffer]

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How do I keep track of the number of raked hands that I play?

There is a raked hand counter that is available free of charge at??? ( I don’t have the link…anyone)

[/ QUOTE ]

Alternatively, use PokerTracker's Game Notes tab. After each hand update, be sure to click the GET ALL button. Total Raked Hands will be shown at the bottom of the POT column to the right of "TRH -->". Be sure to set the correct date filter in the Preferences tab.

[HesseJam]

Hey, that's my personal POTD!

I always wondered how I could check out that without adding all the raked hands in the sessions menu.

Thanks!

[cjs]

Does anyone know which ones have a casino match and does it require a deposit into the casino side? Are some risk free and others require you to risk your funds first?

Their casino sides always confuse me.

[skaughty]

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Interpoker = up $90, 100% match bonus on your first deposit of the month. You must play 8x the bonus for it to be released. $90 bonus requires 720 raked hands. To clear this promotion the hands must be played at 1/2 Limit or 0.5/1 or NL/PL or above.


[/ QUOTE ]

Where is the evidence that the above levels are required for bonus clearance? THe T&C seem to state in rake size (min $.25).

[hhughes]

Cubs...very nice work

There is another question that recently came up during one of the weekly hand promos they have at Total/UKbetting:

During one of the recent promos (Bachelor Party I believe, get dealt 2 Jacks, get a third, etc.) One of the people I was playing with got the wired Jacks and hit the 3rd on the flop...after the hand I reminded this person of the promo and to report the hand to CS to recieve the bonus (which they were not aware of). A third person at the table chimed in and said that these promos only paid out on the GBP tables and not the dollar tables(and we were on a dollar table.)

A discussion ensued about how people had gotten the bonus at the dollar tables before(myself included). The third person told us to go to the site and "read the fine print."

After doing just that, it seemed that what he said about only paying out at the GBP tables was accurate. I dont know if this is the case or not. All I know is that I had been paid previously for these hand promos at the dollar tables (though the time I hit was at least a couple of months ago)

FWIW

[PygmyHero]

This is excellent. Thank you for your effort. It might also be worthwhile to either link to this (http://www.bonusbug.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=casino;action=display;num=111530691 1;start=0#0) , or to check it over and see if you can incorporate any of it into a revision.

[stir]

Cubs,

In regard to Classic poker, you should include the fact they do not offer a monthly bonus.

Also strongly consider an warning advisory that Classic Poker is inconsistent in paying their intial bonus. They have not paid me and this problem has been reported by several other 2+2'ers over the past 4-5 months. They seem to ignore emails. Others have been paid no problem, but this situation could be a real concern to someone on a limited bankroll.

[wmspringer]

Yes, I believe I cleared the first month's bonus at .5/1.

[kenstall]

[ QUOTE ]
pokerplex bonus has been paid at 300 hands played, even though they say raked, (dont know for how much longer this will remain that way.)

[/ QUOTE ]

PokerPlex changed their T&C back to say 300 hands so I don't expect this to change.
http://www.pokerplex.com/poker/index.shtml

[KKbluff]

[ QUOTE ]
I busted out a number of months in a row, at Intercasino how will I know how much I have to wager?

I don’t think there is a way to figure this out….. will support tell you???


How do I keep track of how much I have wagered in the casino?

I use pen and paper and make etch marks every number of hands.

[/ QUOTE ]

For every 200 comp points you will be allowed to cash out $100 in bonus money. 1 comp point = $10 wagered.
Comp points can be found under Menu > My comp points.

Ive always kept track of how much ive wagered and when i can cash out by this method.

[Cubswin]

Just and FYI.... i have not forgotten about this thread.... am going to update these FAQs and run 2nd draft pass you all by the end of the weekend...

cubs

[Pov]

[ QUOTE ]
Just and FYI.... i have not forgotten about this thread.... am going to update these FAQs and run 2nd draft pass you all by the end of the weekend...

cubs

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks, looking forward to it! If you start a new thread please come back to this thread and link to the new one - I image some people besides just me have this one bookmarked and don't want to miss the new one. Thanks again.

[fire_fly]

[ QUOTE ]
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Littlewoods = 5 pounds for 250 hands played. To clear this promotion the hands must be played at 1/2 Limit or 0.5/1 or NL/PL or above. No deposit is required for this bonus.

[/ QUOTE ]

Probably just a typo, but the bonus is 25 GBP for 250 hands played. I've done this one the last 2 months.


[/ QUOTE ]

Is this true? If so, I think this would probably be about the best bonus out there (hourly at least.)

That would be about 45 bucks for an hour and a half. Is this true?

[Spartacus]

I find that the hourlies (William Hill, Total Bet and UK Betting) come out to be less than 250 hands to clear. I agree they are the best Cryptos bonuswise.

[smartalecc5]

I <3 cryptologic sites.

Also, does Ritz and Totalbet and UKBetting eligible to US players?

[IggyWH]

[ QUOTE ]
That would be about 45 bucks for an hour and a half. Is this true?

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The conversion rate usually floats around £1 = $1.87 so $45 is about right, but then there's fees from Neteller.

Everytime I ask Neteller what the fee conversion is, I get a different answer each time. As a rough estimate though, a recent transaction I had was depositing £50 and then getting that deposit refunded the next day and the difference was $3.

[HesseJam]

The fee should be 1.9 % both ways = 3.8%.

[Frequitude]

[ QUOTE ]
How do I keep track of how much I have wagered in the casino?

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The best way I've found is to use the windows calculator. Let's say you want to flat bet $5 every hand. As soon as you open the calculator, enter "+5", then hit "=" everytime you bet, double, split etc. If you change how much you bet, change how much you add (duh).

[MicroBob]

Hesse's points about getting a $20 come-back bonus by waiting it out are valid (including the ability to clear both bonuses at once).
Also about clearing the bonus DURING one of the 'Cowboy weekend' promotions or whatever they might be running.


Amazingly, I don't think I have EVER cashed-out from Crypto.

They charge a $1 fee to cash-out.
As I recall...I think you can avoid the $1 cash-out fee by simply cashing-out $X + $0.01.
So if you want to cash-out $100 then just put in $100.01.
Crypto willjust round it up to $101...and then charge you the $1 cash-out fee....which now is only a $0.01 cash-out fee.


Is this correct people??
As i said, I've never done this myself but I thought I remembered reading about it.



Also - info along the lines that the 1/2 dollar-tables are EXTREMELY tight at the end of the month because of numerous 2+2 bonus-clearing types trying to get in their hands might be useful.
To that end....I suspect it might be better to clear the bonuses during the middle of the month IF there are fewer rock-tight bonus-clearers to be found during that time.


Also - info that the rake on the pounds and euro tables are worse (3 pound rake max is worse than $3 rake) but that they are sometimes considered looser (partly because it's mostly occupied by people who don't understand they're getting screwed by the rake).


Also - that prime-time hours there are different on crypto than on most other sites because of the predominance of European players.
So American evenings (and particularly later evening) are a bit deader there. But American afternoons are more active because this is obviously European prime-time (evening).




Just some suggested additions if you wanted to take the FAQ's in these directions.
Good job Cubs.

[Cubswin]

sigh... i will get to this asap..... side-tracked again....

cubs

[Spartacus]

[ QUOTE ]
They charge a $1 fee to cash-out.
As I recall...I think you can avoid the $1 cash-out fee by simply cashing-out $X + $0.01.
So if you want to cash-out $100 then just put in $100.01.
Crypto willjust round it up to $101...and then charge you the $1 cash-out fee....which now is only a $0.01 cash-out fee.


Is this correct people??
As i said, I've never done this myself but I thought I remembered reading about it.



[/ QUOTE ]

Absolutely. It states that they round up to nearest dollar right on the cashout page. Funny that it took me reading about here to even notice it but I noticed the $1 they were charging immediately.

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Also - info along the lines that the 1/2 dollar-tables are EXTREMELY tight at the end of the month because of numerous 2+2 bonus-clearing types trying to get in their hands might be useful.
To that end....I suspect it might be better to clear the bonuses during the middle of the month IF there are fewer rock-tight bonus-clearers to be found during that time.



[/ QUOTE ]

This is the key to the Cryptos, table selection. Nobody wants to play with a table full of bonus clearing whores.


[ QUOTE ]
Also - info that the rake on the pounds and euro tables are worse (3 pound rake max is worse than $3 rake) but that they are sometimes considered looser (partly because it's mostly occupied by people who don't understand they're getting screwed by the rake).

[/ QUOTE ]

This has been subject to debate. There is no argument however that they do rake more for the larger pots.

[ QUOTE ]
Hesse's points about getting a $20 come-back bonus by waiting it out are valid (including the ability to clear both bonuses at once).
Also about clearing the bonus DURING one of the 'Cowboy weekend' promotions or whatever they might be running.



[/ QUOTE ]

Also note that Total Bet (http://www.ukbettingpoker.co.uk/Promo_Daily/0,10120,ukb,00.html) and UKBetting (http://www.ukbettingpoker.co.uk/Promo_Daily/0,10120,ukb,00.html) run excellent promotions all month for hold em players. Definately check them out before you 'whore' there.

[PygmyHero]

[ QUOTE ]


They charge a $1 fee to cash-out.
As I recall...I think you can avoid the $1 cash-out fee by simply cashing-out $X + $0.01.
So if you want to cash-out $100 then just put in $100.01.
Crypto willjust round it up to $101...and then charge you the $1 cash-out fee....which now is only a $0.01 cash-out fee.


Is this correct people??
As i said, I've never done this myself but I thought I remembered reading about it.



[/ QUOTE ]

This is NOT correct. I just cashed out $200.01 from Poker Plex and I was still charged a $1.00 service fee. Also, the amount of my cashout was NOT rounded up. In the cashier statement screen it shows up as two separate transactions - my cashout for exactly $200.01 and another line showing the service charge. I double checked my account balance and it is indeed $201.01 lower than before my withdrawal request.

Again, this was for Poker Plex, but I would imagine the rest of the Cryptos are the same.

[2easy]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]


They charge a $1 fee to cash-out.
As I recall...I think you can avoid the $1 cash-out fee by simply cashing-out $X + $0.01.
So if you want to cash-out $100 then just put in $100.01.
Crypto willjust round it up to $101...and then charge you the $1 cash-out fee....which now is only a $0.01 cash-out fee.


Is this correct people??
As i said, I've never done this myself but I thought I remembered reading about it.



[/ QUOTE ]

This is NOT correct. I just cashed out $200.01 from Poker Plex and I was still charged a $1.00 service fee. Also, the amount of my cashout was NOT rounded up. In the cashier statement screen it shows up as two separate transactions - my cashout for exactly $200.01 and another line showing the service charge. I double checked my account balance and it is indeed $201.01 lower than before my withdrawal request.

Again, this was for Poker Plex, but I would imagine the rest of the Cryptos are the same.

[/ QUOTE ]

this is true, but have you checked your neteller balance?

when you do, you will probably see that $201 was put in there. that is when you recoup the 99 cents.

this has ALWAYS worked for me, at any rate.

[PygmyHero]

[ QUOTE ]


[ QUOTE ]

They charge a $1 fee to cash-out.
As I recall...I think you can avoid the $1 cash-out fee by simply cashing-out $X + $0.01.
So if you want to cash-out $100 then just put in $100.01.
Crypto willjust round it up to $101...and then charge you the $1 cash-out fee....which now is only a $0.01 cash-out fee.

Is this correct people??
As i said, I've never done this myself but I thought I remembered reading about it.


[/ QUOTE ]

[ QUOTE ]

This is NOT correct. I just cashed out $200.01 from Poker Plex and I was still charged a $1.00 service fee. Also, the amount of my cashout was NOT rounded up. In the cashier statement screen it shows up as two separate transactions - my cashout for exactly $200.01 and another line showing the service charge. I double checked my account balance and it is indeed $201.01 lower than before my withdrawal request.

Again, this was for Poker Plex, but I would imagine the rest of the Cryptos are the same.


[/ QUOTE ]

this is true, but have you checked your neteller balance?

when you do, you will probably see that $201 was put in there. that is when you recoup the 99 cents.

this has ALWAYS worked for me, at any rate.


[/ QUOTE ]

Okay, thanks for the clarification. That is not how I interpreted MicroBob's post, but he said he had not done it.

I will post when my funds hit - but it will be Firepay account and NOT Neteller. I am a Maryland resident and Neteller has not deigned us worthy of their service.

[MicroBob]

Right - I was not aware that you got the $0.99 back when it hit neteller.
I did think indeed that it was rounded up on the cash-out itself...not upon you receiving it.

This is a clarification that would be helpful to include in the FAQ's also I suppose.



Sorry for all the additions/ideas Cubs - I think the $1 thing is a good addition though as well as the higher max-rake on the brit-sterling games.

General info that ANYBODY can play those games might be a good idea also.
I've seen some posts by American players who weren't aware that they could actually sit at the brit-sterling tables because they didn't know that crypto just converts their dollars into pounds upon sitting and then converts it back to dollars when they leave the table and it goes back into their account.

[Usual]

With the Ecash PIN do you need one for each Crypto site, or is just the first one enough?

[kdog]

[ QUOTE ]
With the Ecash PIN do you need one for each Crypto site, or is just the first one enough?




[/ QUOTE ]

All Ecash sites have their own PIN's.

[stir]

There is one exception: William Hill does not require a PIN

[JordanIB]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

Interpoker = up $90, 100% match bonus on your first deposit of the month. You must play 8x the bonus for it to be released. $90 bonus requires 720 raked hands. To clear this promotion the hands must be played at 1/2 Limit or 0.5/1 or NL/PL or above.


[/ QUOTE ]

Where is the evidence that the above levels are required for bonus clearance? THe T&C seem to state in rake size (min $.25).

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah. The $1/2 limit info is wrong. I just cleared the monthly bonus over the weekend at .5/1

[IggyWH]

[ QUOTE ]
There is one exception: William Hill does not require a PIN

[/ QUOTE ]

Grrrr, I wish I would have read this sooner. I've been waiting 2 weeks for a PIN to show up from them. I just whored their casino for the first time. I didn't NEED the money, but I feel a lot better when $ is sitting in my Neteller than when it's sitting in a casino.

[PygmyHero]

[ QUOTE ]

They charge a $1 fee to cash-out.
As I recall...I think you can avoid the $1 cash-out fee by simply cashing-out $X + $0.01.
So if you want to cash-out $100 then just put in $100.01.
Crypto willjust round it up to $101...and then charge you the $1 cash-out fee....which now is only a $0.01 cash-out fee.

Is this correct people??
As i said, I've never done this myself but I thought I remembered reading about it.


[/ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

This is NOT correct. I just cashed out $200.01 from Poker Plex and I was still charged a $1.00 service fee. Also, the amount of my cashout was NOT rounded up. In the cashier statement screen it shows up as two separate transactions - my cashout for exactly $200.01 and another line showing the service charge. I double checked my account balance and it is indeed $201.01 lower than before my withdrawal request.

Again, this was for Poker Plex, but I would imagine the rest of the Cryptos are the same.


[/ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

this is true, but have you checked your neteller balance?

when you do, you will probably see that $201 was put in there. that is when you recoup the 99 cents.

this has ALWAYS worked for me, at any rate.



[/ QUOTE ]

My funds have just cleared and I was credited $200.01. I also checked my Poker Plex account and it remains at the same number (that is, previous balance minus $200.01 withdrawn minus $1 service charge). Basically, the $0.99 never came back to me so I paid the full $1 service charge.

However, this was using Firepay (again, have no access to Neteller because I live in Maryland), so maybe it is different with Neteller or other methods. Also, this was for Poker Plex - maybe some of the other cryptos are different.

[2easy]

my experience has been with neteller. however, it has worked for me with plex, as well as all of the cryptos.

perhaps it IS because it is with firepay. or it is possible that they have just recently closed this loophole.

will let you know next time i try it if this has changed.

p.s. i always did 5 cents above, and not just 1 cent. don't know if that was a factor or not.

[Cubswin]

Am working on this at the moment... tonight should finally be the night the revision is done.... one outstanding question....

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-Support: Attempting to communicate with support is essentially useless. I've never had an email to support answered. Calling isn't much better.


-Ritz uses E-cash and Betfair use their own.

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Just to clarify, does Bet fair have their own support or own cashier system? I assume its the latter but i just want to be 100% sure.

thanks,
cubs

[Patchmaster]

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General info that ANYBODY can play those games might be a good idea also.
I've seen some posts by American players who weren't aware that they could actually sit at the brit-sterling tables because they didn't know that crypto just converts their dollars into pounds upon sitting and then converts it back to dollars when they leave the table and it goes back into their account.

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I would add that the conversion rate is the same in both directions, so, unlike moving the GBPs in and out of NETeller (assuming you have a US$-denominated NETeller account), there is no conversion fee. If you use Poker Tracker, you might also want to take note of the conversion factor. It should be stated in one of the screens when you buy chips. Poker Tracker records the win/loss numbers in the table currency. Conversions from other currencies are done separately and applied only to the totals.

[Cubswin]

thanks patch... i actually already had something like that in the revision /images/graemlins/smile.gif

anyone else have anything to add????

cubs

PS... also... can someone clarify if you are eligable for the ukbetting and totalbet hand promotions at $ and euro tables... thanks

[kdog]

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There is one exception: William Hill does not require a PIN

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Will Hill does not use the Ecash system.