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ChuckyB
06-07-2005, 01:30 AM
I'd love your thoughts/insults (they are deserved) on this play. I probably should have gone all-in on the flop. How bad is this?


NL Hold'em $5 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee
Blinds(10/15)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
CO ( $800 )
SB ( $830 )
BB ( $800 )
LP ( $785 )
MP2 ( $800 )
HERO ( $800 )
B ( $785 )
UTG: ( $800 )
UTG+1( $800 )
UTG+2( $800 )
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ac Ah ]
UTG folds.
UTG+1 calls [15].
UTG+2 folds.
HERO raises [75].
MP2 folds.
LP folds.
CO folds.
B calls [75].
SB calls [65].
BB folds.
UTG+1 calls [60].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6h, Th, 2c ] POT: 300
SB bets [175].
UTG+1 folds.
HERO raises [350].
B folds.
SB calls [175].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qc ] POT: 1000
SB is all-In [405]
HERO is all-In [375]
** Dealing River ** [ 9d ]
SB shows [ Jc, Kd ] a straight, nine to king.
HERO shows [ Ac, Ah ] a pair of aces.

citanul
06-07-2005, 01:40 AM
the bad beat police don't visit this forum, and i don't work as cheap as them. so you owe me $2.

citanul

dhende3
06-07-2005, 01:44 AM
There is at least a little insight to make on this bad beat post. In low level SnGs I raise to 100 level 1. I definitely push the flop... If he calls he is a moron and you will profit in the long run off of these people.

ChuckyB
06-07-2005, 02:13 AM
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the bad beat police don't visit this forum, and i don't work as cheap as them. so you owe me $2.

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I'd send you $2 but I peed away my $6 playing aces like a moron. I don't wanna hafta ask my mommy for more

dfscott
06-07-2005, 02:15 AM
Uh-oh -- I've started a trend...

citanul
06-07-2005, 02:15 AM
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Uh-oh -- I've started a trend...

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step 2: profit?

citanul

ChuckyB
06-07-2005, 02:16 AM
7x BB isn't too much? I do want the call...for the reasons you mentioned. My standard is 4xBB +1 for each caller.

45suited
06-07-2005, 02:34 AM
Fold pre-flop so that you won't have to write a bad beat post.

Myst
06-07-2005, 02:37 AM
I agree. The best way to play aces is to fold preflop. That way youll never get screwed with them and have to write bad beat posts about them...

Kidding aside, your play is fine. Miniraising or pushing flop are both good plays. I would do the latter, but thats my style.

Oooh, and BTW, the biggest mistake you made was to play a $5 game in the first place.

jgunnip
06-07-2005, 03:18 AM
I agree. 75 was prefectly fine here.

anyway, bad beats are fun and are very +EV in the long run. Be happy and start up a new tournament.

ChuckyB
06-07-2005, 09:19 PM
I might buy that, but I made $60 off them yesterday. So, I think I'm okay.

___SK___
06-07-2005, 09:25 PM
that rake is killing you first off.

Freudian
06-07-2005, 09:26 PM
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There is at least a little insight to make on this bad beat post. In low level SnGs I raise to 100 level 1. I definitely push the flop... If he calls he is a moron and you will profit in the long run off of these people.

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I think that is overdoing it. I play in the $22s and there are plenty of bad players there, but even they will get scared by overbetting. My standard raise is to 75 in level one and 100-125 in level 2 (depending on how bad I think the blinds are).

KenProspero
06-07-2005, 09:47 PM
On the bad beat -- I've had worse done to me, and I think everyone in this forum could probably say the same.

On the play -- I only looked quickly, but basically, if I read it right, Villian pushed all in on a straight DRAW?

I want this guy at my table whenever I sit down to play. Seriously, his success this time will encourage him to play just as intelligently in the future, which means lots of $$ for the good guys.

durron597
06-07-2005, 09:52 PM
Mistake 1: Playing $5+$1. If your bankroll can't afford $10+$1, switch to Stars or PokerRoom.

That said, you got semibluffed and lost to a 6 outer. Cards happen, you play good.

lastchance
06-07-2005, 10:00 PM
I would have pushed the flop. Yeah, you need to push the flop. Don't think it helps too much here, but against a heart draw, pushing is definitely correct.