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elena_elphie
06-06-2005, 08:59 PM
I'm unclear on how willing I should be to go to the felt with an overpair against a typical opponent at the 50+5 level. If opp shows any signs of donkiness I am nearly always willing to, but this is hand 3 of a tournament against an unknown, so no reads, except villian raised preflop hand 1, bet on flop and folded to a raise:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Button (t1075)
SB (t870)
BB (t970)
Hero (t1000)
UTG+1 (t1000)
UTG+2 (t1000)
MP1 (t970)
MP2 (t885)
MP3 (t970)
CO (t1260)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t45</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls t45, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>.

Flop: (t112.50) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t75</font>, MP2 calls t75.

Turn: (t262.50) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t180</font>, MP2 calls t180.

River: (t622.50) K/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 is allin, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t622.50

What should I have done on the river? Should I have done anything differently. I felt I was put in a tough spot by villian's allin.

chisness
06-06-2005, 09:10 PM
I'd raise a bit more pre then bet a bit more on the following streets. I like the river check but would probably call figuring that if he had a great hand he wouldn't have pushed that much. He might even think he's winning with KdT or something.

NYCNative
06-06-2005, 10:44 PM
Bet more on every street.

I probably don't lay it down at the river but that may be a function of playing at smaller buy-ins where people could bet like this with a lot of crap.

elena_elphie
06-07-2005, 06:11 PM
I would have definately called v. an unknown at the $11 or $22. I'm new to the $55 so I'm trying to figure out how to adjust. Also, I have been playing a bunch of live NL ring recently and in that game that sequence would probably indicate I was beat against the typical opponent.

treeofwisdom7
06-07-2005, 06:17 PM
depends on how you feel things are going. i might even check fold turn. but if you know nothing about opp then i guess you played it right.

i dont think not folding aces is a mistake because no player in the 10-50 will fold them in this case but if you do then your better than most here..

Eihli
06-07-2005, 06:31 PM
Check-fold the turn? The play on these forums is getting worse than the play I see at the tables.

Kristian
06-07-2005, 06:52 PM
While you could bet more preflop, I think you must bet quite a bit more on this flop. Anyone holding 2 diamonds would be correct to call, and you don't want that this early.
I also bet this river, making it easier to fold if he pushes. But I think you have to fold it as played.

elena_elphie
06-07-2005, 07:19 PM
I thought about that. How much would you bet on the river? 200? I can probably fold to a push, although I will only have 450 left or so.

RobGW
06-07-2005, 07:28 PM
Its too late to make a bet just to find out where you are at. Bet and fold? Hell no. Make your decision beforehand. Are you going to the felt with this or not? If not then check fold and save your chips. If you are then check call.