A9s

[joker122]

party 5/10 6 max 6 handed

i raise A9s UTG. co cold calls and it's the two of us.

flop is 89Kr with none of my suit.

i bet and he raises and i call.

turn a 2.

i check, he bets, i call.

river is a 4.

what's my river plan, and how am i doing so far?

[billyjex]

i check/call.

I tend to call these down, A flop raise can be a lot of stuff.. if he bets the river I feel we're beat but we got this far.

[mungpo]

You need to check/call. Otherwise, you should have folded on the turn.

[joker122]

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i check/call.

I tend to call these down, A flop raise can be a lot of stuff.. if he bets the river I feel we're beat but we got this far.

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the problem with check calling is that he'll only bet a hand that beats me. he'll take a free showdown with his weaker hands like an 8, a 9, ace high or a pocket pair.

he might bet a bluff that he semibluffed on the flop like JT or 76, but how likely are those?

[joker122]

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You need to check/call. Otherwise, you should have folded on the turn.

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i don't understand why this is the case. a bet on the river tells me alot more about his hand than a turn bet.

[mungpo]

You would bet/fold river?

[donger]

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the problem with check calling is that he'll only bet a hand that beats me. he'll take a free showdown with his weaker hands like an 8, a 9, ace high or a pocket pair.


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This assumes your opponent plays well. That's a big assumption. A lot of mongoloids would bet pocket 3s or A-high there. Do you have any stats for Villain? I would probably call a 45/7 type guy here.

[adamstewart]

i don't know about the turn call.


Adam

[7ontheline]

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i don't know about the turn call.

Adam

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Really? I think you're giving the guy too much credit if you fold to the turn bet here a lot. I think folding the turn too much would get you beat too often by players who will play draws aggressively. It definitely depends on your read on this guy.

[Redeye]

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i don't know about the turn call.


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I think the turn is a pretty easy call against an unknown. Hero is getting 5.5:1 on the call. If we have 5 clean outs you only need to be ahead about 15% of the time to make this call. Although this assumes you always call the river and that villian always bets the river.

[Lmn55d]

I would check/call. Folding the turn against an unknown is bad as they would do this with any 8 or 9 (A8, J8, Q8s) etc. or possibly TJ or TQ or something like a bluff at the king. Or even 77. I would check/call the river so he can bet his busted draws...I think he'll bet an 8 or 9 too a lot of the time. I don't think there's too much value in betting...if he's passive he might even check through a weak king. Especially because I wouldn't feel that comfortable folding to a river raise, although its likely +EV.

[Surfbullet]

Check-call the river. Your play looks like AT or some other nice preflop hand that whiffed, and he will bet his 44/A8/T9 etc type hands again on the river. Additionally, you give him a chance to river bluff at you with hands that he will never call with like TJ or 7T or 67.

Surf

[climber]

Check/call. If you start folding this on the turn routinely I don't see how you would get too far in 6MAX. You have second pair and need to see a showdown. Sure lots of times he has a king, but lots of times he doesn't.

[Stormwolf]

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party 5/10 6 max 6 handed

i raise A9s UTG. co cold calls and it's the two of us.

flop is 89Kr with none of my suit.

i bet and he raises and i call.

turn a 2.

i check, he bets, i call.

river is a 4.

what's my river plan, and how am i doing so far?

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i'd bet, very unlikely he raises with a lone king, if he does he may have something better than that, the main reason i'd bet is because you can beat all middle/lower pairs

[Nate tha' Great]

River is a clear check-call. You haven't defined your hand well enough to do anything else. Against certain opponents btw I'm 3-betting this flop.

[joker122]

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You would bet/fold river?

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actually, i was planning on check-folding.

[joker122]

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This assumes your opponent plays well.

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no exactly. i'm assuming he's typical, and that's obviously a far cry from good.

[dantheman_05]

this hand depends on reading your opponent. if he is a LAP then check call the turn and lead the river. if he is somewhat passive, lead the turn but fold to a raise - if he just calls your turn bet then check call the river (hoping he checks th eriver too)

[joker122]

i checked the river, not really having a plan if he bet, but he checked to and showed 33. MHWG.

[Jeff W]

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actually, i was planning on check-folding.

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I don't think that is a smart move. Your opponent hasn't been allowed to show enough aggression to convince you that you're beat.

Check-calling is the play.