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suited_ace
06-06-2005, 08:36 PM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (7 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Hero (t915)
UTG (t660)
MP1 (t1311)
MP2 (t1494)
CO (t794)
Button (t786)
SB (t2040)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t500</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero?

Maulik
06-06-2005, 08:59 PM
dump it, you're better off using your position to steal blinds then put a battle up here

lastchance
06-06-2005, 09:00 PM
I think stacks are definitely short enough to call here. And of course, push 99% of flops.

chisness
06-06-2005, 09:11 PM
i'd push preflop

Newt_Buggs
06-06-2005, 10:33 PM
Whether you can fold this depends entirely on the player. I could see a lot of people raising here with A2 though, which definitly makes this a call against the average player. Also, I don't see anything wrong with doing a stop and go in place of pushing pf.

NYCNative
06-06-2005, 10:39 PM
Forgive me if I'm mistaken but aren't the chip counts before the blinds are posted? If so, you are only left with 2BB if you fold and 1/4 of that will be in the SB. Doesn't that make this an insta-push on almost any two cards and you're pretty happy you have a hand that is not bad against the range of a potential blinds stealer?

suited_ace
06-07-2005, 10:48 AM
Chip counts are before blinds are posted, and I'd have 3BB after posting the SB.

I folded this hand, but as soon as I did it I felt I shouldn't have folded this.

RobGW
06-07-2005, 11:39 AM
Folded to the button with the blinds this high he could be raising with a lot of hands but you were there so you should have a better idea as to how he was playing. Even with that being said you will only have 3x BB if you fold this. How was the table playing? I noticed someone said to fold this and try to steal blinds. Well thats an idea but with such a small stack you will have little FE and you also have to deal with 6 others players who may not give you the oppportunity to steal. So you can fold now and try to steal or catch a better hand soon. This is not without risk though. Or you can make your stand now. According to ICM you need to win this 56% of the time to breakeven in $EV. I think its close but I would just make my stand now because if I double up here it makes it much easier to steal and control the table near the bubble. I just don't like playing a short stack with so many people left with such high blinds. Its a gamble either way but I think the upside is much bigger making your stand now.

Unarmed
06-07-2005, 11:47 AM
[ QUOTE ]

Button (t786)
Button raises to t500


[/ QUOTE ]
Run.

Which of course raises an interesting question:
Does a &lt; all-in raise often have more FE than a push?

curtains
06-07-2005, 11:55 AM
No way I fold this...

jzieg2313
06-07-2005, 12:04 PM
I think you have to push this man. There is a good chance you are ahead and you are running out of time.

JZ