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istewart
06-06-2005, 03:02 PM
Villain1 is 13/2/.8. Villain2 is mostly unknown, but haven't seen much action from him at the table.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 :#A500AF(VILLAIN1)/ calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO :#A500AF(VILLAIN2)/ calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">VILLAIN1 raises</font>, VILLAIN2 calls, Hero calls, BB folds.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">VILLAIN1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">VILLAIN2 raises</font>, Hero calls, VILLAIN1 calls.

River: (11.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">VILLAIN1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">VILLAIN2 raises</font>, Hero...
topspin
06-06-2005, 03:06 PM
Without a read on villain 2 as being aggressive, I'd fold this. He called two cold on the flop and been stepping on the pedal the rest of the way, and this line doesn't make much sense for J5 or TPTK -- A5 seems most likely, but I wouldn't be shocked by some weird slowplayed set or something.

Why no flop 3-bet?
MrWookie47
06-06-2005, 03:08 PM
I cap every street. You have the stone cold nuts.
istewart
06-06-2005, 03:10 PM
I realize /images/graemlins/smile.gif
irishpint
06-06-2005, 03:10 PM
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I cap every street. You have the stone cold nuts.

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u looking at the right hand?
benkath1
06-06-2005, 03:11 PM
Would villain1 stop n go with less than Aces up?

That river could get costly, I think I would fold. Or at least I say I would. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif
benkath1
06-06-2005, 03:12 PM
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I cap every street. You have the stone cold nuts.

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Oh yeah. I forgot. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif
istewart
06-06-2005, 03:13 PM
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Why no flop 3-bet?


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Good, missed that.
jopke81
06-06-2005, 03:19 PM
Why are you calling two cold on the turn when your hand doesn't improve?
metzara
06-06-2005, 03:20 PM
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... I'd fold this...

Why no flop 3-bet?

[/ QUOTE ]My thoughts exactly.
istewart
06-06-2005, 03:21 PM
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Why are you calling two cold on the turn when your hand doesn't improve?

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My hand did improve.
MrWookie47
06-06-2005, 03:22 PM
He has odds to continue on his flush draw even if he didn't catch the 5.

Edit: But that doesn't change the fact that he should 3bet /images/graemlins/smile.gif.
istewart
06-06-2005, 03:36 PM
I'll post results early since it seems this thread is done. I folded, Villain1 called, Villain2 showed K /images/graemlins/diamond.gifT /images/graemlins/spade.gif.

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