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Eevee
06-06-2005, 02:09 PM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB (t1685)
UTG (t1110)
UTG+1 (t1725)
MP1 (t475)
Hero (t975)
MP3 (t1225)
CO (t1130)
Button (t835)
SB (t840)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t90</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333"></font>
Hero should reraise to t250?
or
Hero should call t90?

What line do you take?

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Freudian
06-06-2005, 02:15 PM
I don't mind a call here. You have position on this guy. As always if you have a read on this guy you might want to fold/raise.

tigerite
06-06-2005, 02:28 PM
I think I would re-raise but only a small amount to try to "buy out the blinds". You don't want to be seeing a flop with AKo out of position if they come along for the ride.

brimstone1
06-06-2005, 02:30 PM
Any reads on MP3, CO, and button?
I'd take one of the following, depending on which gear I'm in:

pre-flop
a) cold-call, see the flop.

b) raise to 150-180 to steal button

This really depends on your reads (if you have any) and your table image (again, if you have any). With a super-tight/agg image, where your cold-call would be considered a monster; he would probably check to you if he didn't hit or minibet, where you could bet 1/2 the pot or more and steal it right there.


On that note, t250 is a ridiculous raise with AKo considering this guy is UTG.
Its $11, right, and he's as likely to have 32o as AA at this point, but I wouldn't get married to my AKo to raise t250 with. Any PP is a favorite over you, and a default 3BB from UTG feels like a mid-PP or a hand close to yours.

Edit: holy [censored] this is a $55, I would definitely give that guy credit for a hand.

microbet
06-06-2005, 02:33 PM
I call. I think the second best choice is pushing.

Bigwig
06-06-2005, 02:35 PM
I call. This is a $50+, and I'm generally going to give some credit to an EP raiser.

Mr_J
06-06-2005, 02:37 PM
The stacks make it look like a $55.

brimstone1
06-06-2005, 02:40 PM
Yeah, I kinda noticed/edited it too late, sorry /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Mr_J
06-06-2005, 02:51 PM
Call or possibly fold. A UTG raiser at $55s, I'd assume I'm usually up vs a PP. I think a push is terrible since QQ will usually call, and KK+ will always call. A lower PP will often call, and you don't want to be taking coinflips.

I don't like a reraise because I will fold to any push. AK is an unmade hand and not one I want to risk my tourney life on this early. You have quite a few to act behind you, and a push from UTG is very possible.

I think calling is usually the best option. It's a hand you want to see a flop with, but one you want to be able to get away from. Calling allows this, and doesn't allow UTG to reraise.

Against a decent player I'd fold.

Creole
06-06-2005, 03:06 PM
I would also call in this spot and see what the flop hits and proceed from there. If anything you have hidden a monster if the flops hits you well, and if not you can tread lightly and may be able to get away a little cheaper.

Newt_Buggs
06-06-2005, 03:51 PM
I think that this is a fairly straightforward call. Pushing is just stupid for the obvious reason that you are usually only going to called by AK,QQ,KK,AA (maybe JJ). Reraising both sets you up to get reraised back and discourages hands like AQ to join the pot as well. The one advantage of reraising though is that if he doesn't reraise back then you are probably aren't dominated (can't be positive though).

microbet
06-06-2005, 04:01 PM
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I think that this is a fairly straightforward call. Pushing is just stupid for the obvious reason that you are usually only going to called by AK,QQ,KK,AA (maybe JJ).

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I absolutely agree that it is a call. But, there are lots of times where the fact that you are only going to get called by a monster means you absolutely have to push. Again, I do not push here, but there are lots of posts here where people are going all in early with huge overbets with AK. It doesn't sound terrible to me, just not as good as calling. I think it is much better than making a reraise here.

ilya
06-06-2005, 04:25 PM
Sometimes I call, sometimes I push. Don't think there's much to choose between the two options.

EDIT: Well, I guess since the raiser is UTG, calling is probably best.

Phoenix1010
06-06-2005, 04:31 PM
Evolve to Jolteon. Then call.

-Phoenix

nova
06-06-2005, 04:36 PM
Has the raiser shown down any hands in the tournament? Due to stack size, had to win some pots early on. If they've opened from EP with a solid 3xbb raise in a 55 I'd also give credit for a good hand.

I like a call here so as to not open yourself up to a reraise. UTG could possibly reraise with AA/KK/QQ/AK depending on the type of player they are. Then you are in a bind and possible coinflip. If you call and miss the flop, you could save yourself money.

curtains
06-06-2005, 05:10 PM
I usually call. I have been known to fold in similar situations too...

btw I agree with what another poster said, if I know the UTG player is solid+tight I am simply folding here.