2005 WSOP-- Revenge of the Pros??

[oaktoon]

I've been saying ever since I got to the Rio that I thought the pros would do very well this year. They're still better and I think they have adjusted to all the craziness of the new poker world. Plus a lot more dead money this year.

Well a Cunningham-Fischman-Ulliott final 3 may be porrof positive of that.

And how good is Scott Fischmann anyway-- 1st out of 831 last year, and 2nd out of 2035 this?? Wow. That's as good or better than what action Dan did in the ME in 2003-04.

[ZBTHorton]

He's not AS good as those numbers present...

I think he's pretty damn good though. I'd stake him, that's for sure. And I'm certainly not betting against him to win another bracelet this year.

[Nottom]

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And I'm certainly not betting against him to win another bracelet this year.

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If the rest of the fields are anything like the first ones I'd be happy to bet against him or anyone else.

Daniel N already mentioned in his blog that he thought if anyone made mosre than 3 final tables this year it might be the greatest accomplishment in poker history.

[diddle]

People who don't play in tournaments view of how pros see tournaments:

Lots of dead money, watch out for "land mines"

Pros in tournaments view of tournaments:

I'm not going to make dominated mistakes like amateurs will. However, my EV of profit in these smaller buy-in events is equal to the buyin at most.

The difference in skill between pros and good amateurs is not that huge. I have seen several well known pros cold calling and 3 betting with KQ against short stacks all in's several times. WHAT ARE YOU BEATING????? POCKET PAIR? NO. ACE-RAG? NO. STOP KQ MADNESS NOW.

[TheMainEvent]

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The difference in skill between pros and good amateurs is not that huge. I have seen several well known pros cold calling and 3 betting with KQ against short stacks all in's several times. WHAT ARE YOU BEATING????? POCKET PAIR? NO. ACE-RAG? NO. STOP KQ MADNESS NOW.

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I thought this was really funny for some reason. That is all.

[SNOWBALL138]

lol, ditto. "I treat KQ like 2-3, like its the plague in no limit hold em" -Cloutier

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STOP KQ MADNESS NOW.

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[Paluka]

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And how good is Scott Fischmann anyway-- 1st out of 831 last year, and 2nd out of 2035 this?? Wow. That's as good or better than what action Dan did in the ME in 2003-04.

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I've had friends who are very good players do things online like finish 2nd twice in a row in a 2400 person tourney (Sunday Stars tourney) and win a 400 person tourney 3 times in a row (Paradise Sunday tourney, this same guy came in 2nd in a WPT). Fischman's results aren't out of line with the results any excellent player might be able to post.

[A_Junglen]

Online and Live play are very different.

[Paluka]

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Online and Live play are very different.

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Explain.

[37offsuit]

When you are anxious about a hand online, only your mouse knows.

[mackthefork]

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Online and Live play are very different.


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Explain.

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He can't, he's talking nonsense, he has 3 options

a) i- Pick up his spade from the shallow hole he already dug and ii- run away.

b) Dig deeper and hope no one notices.

c) Hit you with the spade and skip to option a) ii-

Regards Mack

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

<shrug> that guy with the fossils who won last year wasn't exactly an amateur. /images/graemlins/cool.gif

[scott8]

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Online and Live play are very different.

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Explain.

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Hard to take a dump while playing live - not impossible, but certainly more difficult.

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

Hard to take a dump while playing live - not impossible, but certainly more difficult.

Huh??? Unless the head's like completely on the other side of the casino, you miss half as many hands.

[boondockst]

um...wirelessly internet connected laptop? you don't miss any hands online

[scott8]

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Hard to take a dump while playing live - not impossible, but certainly more difficult.

Huh??? Unless the head's like completely on the other side of the casino, you miss half as many hands.

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Jesus, do I have to explain everything?
Obviously, I was speaking of taking a dump while at the table.

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

Yeah, duh. I've just never had a good experience with wireless internet with poker, and finally gave up and hardwired my system.

[jetsg4]

compairing what the douche has done to dan... is a huge slap in the face to dan.. dan makes 2 final talbes back to back in the main event and you compair this to scott???

doesn't dan have a ME win under his belt also.... nowhere near the same.

[krabby5]

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When you are anxious about a hand online, only your mouse knows.

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that goes both ways...you can't see physical tells on the other guy either..

but still...I think it's A LOT harder to bluff live than online.....

[BadVoodooX]

The 6 max event is no exception, of the remaining 14 at this time, I don't know 3 of them, the rest is a brutal group of well regarded 'name' players you absolutely do not want at your table.