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ElAnimal

06-05-2005, 04:37 PM

MP1 (20/8/1.1 after 110 hands) had $64 before the flop. Button is 46/15/1.4 after 50 hands.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
3 folds, MP1 raises, 3 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls, Button raises, Hero calls, MP1 3-bets, Button caps, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Any reason to fold here? I've got redraws up the wazoo.

Turn: (9.16 BB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, Button bets, Hero calls, MP1 raises, Button 3-bets, Hero...

If hero calls, does he also call a cap? If so, what's the plan on the river unimproved?

Dynamo16

06-05-2005, 05:32 PM

I don't see how your winning this hand...
MP1 is holding a big hand, possibly AQ or QQ
Button has one of the same things...
I think your pretty much drawing dead on this hand.

toss

06-05-2005, 05:38 PM

PF is okay, Flop is fine.

Mp1 probably has a strong hand (QQ,TT,AQ,AK) and Button has some kinda cheese. You're basically drawing dead to most of the conceivable hands that MP1 has and you're getting 8.5:1 on your turn call. I'd find a fold here given MP1 stats and his play.

jjacky

06-05-2005, 05:51 PM

i would have folded the flop. it is almost sure that you are beaten and the only clear outs are the kings to the nut straight. since someone might already have a straight (probably the button) and someone with a set would have a strong redraw i would count the kings as 2 outs. the backdoor flush draw isn`t worth anything imo, because the reversed implied odds are too bad. i count the 3 jacks as zero outs since it is almost sure that someone has a king, AQ or a set. and i count the 2 aces as zero outs, because it is very unlikely that it gives you the best hand.
about 2 or 3 outs and almost zero chance that you have the best hand ==> fold

the turn: you are still behind with something between zero (vs AQ) and 9 + 3 (vs a straight) outs. i think this is a close fold.

QTip

06-05-2005, 06:21 PM

Tough hand. I'd like to know what MP1 had because (Enemy of the State) "he's either incredible smart or incredibly stupid.

First, PF whatever...

Flop, I'm c/ring.

I can't get myself to fold this hand here, I'm going to see this river. The plan on the river would depend on the action.....I can't think of any I like...this is tough.

A jack, I bet pray for raises and reraises.

Anything else, I think it depends on what MP1 does here on the turn, cap or call.

ElAnimal

06-05-2005, 09:06 PM

Thanks for the input. Here's how it shook out.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
3 folds, MP1 raises, 3 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls, Button raises, Hero calls, MP1 3-bets, Button caps, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (9.16 BB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, Button bets, Hero calls, MP1 raises, Button 3-bets, Hero calls, MP1 caps, Button calls, Hero calls.

River: (21.16 BB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
Hero Checks, MP1 Bets, Button Raises, Hero folds, MP1 Re-Raises (all-in), Button calls.
Final Pot: 21.16 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has Js Ac (three of a kind, aces).
MP1 has Ah Qh (full house, aces full of queens).
Button has Jc Kh (straight, ace high).
Outcome: MP1 wins 21.16 BB.

ArturiusX

06-05-2005, 09:10 PM

Anyone else fold to the 3-bet on the turn?