Who Plays Better

[PokerProdigy]

If everything else is beeing held equal (the game, the rake, the limit, cash game vs. tournament, etc...) who plays better. The players online? Or the players in a casino?

P.S. Please add some sort of justification to your answer if possible.

[d10]

Online, and that doesn't need any justification. If I found 10/20 games online that were as easy as the live game I play I would wet my pants. I'd be 4-tabling 10/20 in my sleep.

[TStoneMBD]

its really not close. online players are much better.

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

Online players are better on the average. No tourists gambing for fun on vacation online.

[Bodhi]

do I need to add to this one?

[kslghost]

I'll give a major justification.

Online poker provides the opportunity to play multiple tables at once. This allows the so called "bored" player to play only 15% of hands yet find themselves involved in a hand most of the time. Therefore, this player at a casino might see 30-40% of hands because they can't take the boredom. Honestly, K8 suited looks WAAAAY better at a casino than an online site, even for me.

Essentially, you get less of the variety of weak players, and tend to find more of tight-passive players online. Tight passive players are harder to take money away from than maniacs, weak-loose, and complete and utter fishies.

Quick story: sat down at a 2/4 at Bay 101, and a new player came into the game. She clearly knew nothing. She called down with 24 offsuit that didn't play anything but the board. (And of course she made many many many other errors...)

[Schwags]

well the good players play online as well as a bandm... so really this question is pointless.

[skp]

The boredom point is an excellent one. Online games used to be a lot looser on Planet poker a few years ago when you could only play 1 game at a time (there was also a lot more caht between players while playing). Even then, it played tighter than live poker because you could be checking out internet porn or something while folding hand after hand.

Ahem...In case my wife somehow reads this: I never surfed porn sites...I was of course busy studying the players.

[brassnuts]

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I'll give a major justification.

Online poker provides the opportunity to play multiple tables at once. This allows the so called "bored" player to play only 15% of hands yet find themselves involved in a hand most of the time. Therefore, this player at a casino might see 30-40% of hands because they can't take the boredom. Honestly, K8 suited looks WAAAAY better at a casino than an online site, even for me.

Essentially, you get less of the variety of weak players, and tend to find more of tight-passive players online. Tight passive players are harder to take money away from than maniacs, weak-loose, and complete and utter fishies.

Quick story: sat down at a 2/4 at Bay 101, and a new player came into the game. She clearly knew nothing. She called down with 24 offsuit that didn't play anything but the board. (And of course she made many many many other errors...)

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Exactly. Not only are the players better online, but players actually try harder online.

[Weatherhead03]

Also with PT and things of that nature makes online players better.

[OrangeKing]

Online, and it's not even close. It takes a lot more work to be able to beat 2/4 online than it does to beat 2/4 in a casino. Until the last couple months, I couldn't beat anything higher than .5/1 online; but now that I'm making a nice profit at 2/4, I'm pretty sure I could beat 10/20 or higher in a casino provided I had the bankroll (which I don't, yet).

[SinCityGuy]

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If everything else is beeing held equal (the game, the rake, the limit, cash game vs. tournament, etc...) who plays better. The players online? Or the players in a casino?

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I've logged substantial hours playing both, and online players are light years ahead of their B&M counterparts at the same limit.

A good 2/4 online player = a good 10/20 B&M player.

[Warren Whitmore]

Online players are a little better. I think the main reason is that denial for the losers is much more difficult.

[JFB37]

I'm not sure I agree that online players are so clearly better. There are dozens of threads on these pages talking about all of the fish at various sites, etc.

Who exactly are you talking about? A random player? Is a random player at PartyPoker better than a random player at Bay101?

I have seen great players and awful players both live and online. Nowdays, I think most of the really good players do both.

[d10]

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Is a random player at PartyPoker better than a random player at Bay101?

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Yes.

[Dov]

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A good 2/4 online player = a good 10/20 B&M player.

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I've even been in live 20/40 games that the would be crushed by a decent party 2/4 player.

[thirddan]

i can only speak for online games 3/6 and lower and live 8/16 and lower, but i have never seen a B&M player whose play i feared or really respected (other than 2+2ers i've played with), but i have played with multiple 3/6 players that i feel are much better than i am...