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fsuplayer
06-05-2005, 02:06 PM
my ipod froze, my songs got effed up on my old computer, and now apple wants $30 for shipping to fix it, AND its not compatible with napster's new unlimited songs for $15/mth.


so....i am getting a new MP3 player, but dont know much else about other brands.

I want one that is small, has a very usable interface, and it doesnt have to be able to hold 10k songs, 1500 or more should be fine. batt. life is important too.

i saw the smaller rio at circuit city and it looked nice, but i know little about it other than that.

any help would be great.

thanks


fsuplayer

The Stranger
06-05-2005, 02:29 PM
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my ipod froze, my songs got effed up on my old computer, and now apple wants $30 for shipping to fix it,

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No Apple Store in your area? That sucks, but it actually pretty fair.

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AND its not compatible with napster's new unlimited songs for $15/mth.

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Are you sure? I don't use Napster, and I don't know how tech savvy you are, but I would imagine there's a way to get it to work.

Joe826
06-05-2005, 02:31 PM
I'm wondering the same thing. my ipod has broken THREE times in the last 9 months and I don't understand how anyone's continues to function.

I don't really know a good answer to your question, but if anyone knows some good ones, I would like suggestions on 10 GB+ units as well.

fsuplayer
06-05-2005, 02:31 PM
yeah, compatible if you want to burn all the DL'd songs to a CD, then import them to itunes.

masse75
06-05-2005, 02:33 PM
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AND its not compatible with napster's new unlimited songs for $15/mth.

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What format is Napster putting their music in? My wife has one of the Mini's, and I thought the iTunes software converted everything to a usable format.

Personally, I got an older iRiver--extremely happy with it. Only holds about 150 songs, but has built-in FM tuner. I like the product line they have, so you might want to check out some of the larger versions. My recommendation would be to look at CNET.com for reviews. That's where I looked.

Popinjay
06-05-2005, 02:34 PM
iAudio (http://eng.iaudio.com/product/product_X5_feature.php)


iRiver (http://www.iriveramerica.com/prod/hd/h300.aspx)

hudat
06-05-2005, 02:40 PM
yahoo offers subscriptions for $6 a month.

fsuplayer
06-05-2005, 03:09 PM
ok, ill clear this up a little, i am not keeping my ipod, and I know what else is out there, but would like some personal opinions about different players by those who have owned them.

thanks guys.

Tron
06-05-2005, 03:13 PM
Patrick Del Poker Grande loves this one (http://eng.iaudio.com/product/product_M3.php). Seriously.

BruinEric
06-05-2005, 03:14 PM
Why not check out a couple of the techno hardware review sites, or the Amazon.Com store reviews for the various models which interest you.

This would seem to be a more direct path to a prompt answer for you.

fsuplayer
06-05-2005, 03:27 PM
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Patrick Del Poker Grande loves this one (http://eng.iaudio.com/product/product_M3.php). Seriously.

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awesome looking player there, but i dont know if I like the no display on the unit. i normally dont like those remote thingys.

Ponks
06-05-2005, 04:22 PM
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Patrick Del Poker Grande loves this one (http://eng.iaudio.com/product/product_M3.php). Seriously.

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awesome looking player there, but i dont know if I like the no display on the unit. i normally dont like those remote thingys.

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Same here, that extra unit hanging on the cord is really annoying to me. I'm in the hunt for an MP3 player myself, anyone have any other good recommendations??

Ponks

Joshssj4
06-05-2005, 04:25 PM
Iriver is apparently good.

fsuplayer
06-05-2005, 08:28 PM
bump for the night crew.

marsvolta619
06-05-2005, 08:34 PM
Iriver H10, end of story. Got one a week ago, couldn't be happier with it. I got the 20gig for I think $290 and I think it's far superior to my friend's Ipod.

Bukem_
06-05-2005, 08:54 PM
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Patrick Del Poker Grande loves this one (http://eng.iaudio.com/product/product_M3.php). Seriously.

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awesome looking player there, but i dont know if I like the no display on the unit. i normally dont like those remote thingys.

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This one seems to be the answer to that:

http://www.cowonamerica.com/images/products/x5/x5_01.jpg

Only thing is I can't seem to find a review by someone not already impartial to iaduio.

They just came out, buy hopefully someone here got one and cna comment on it.

Iaudio x5 link (http://www.cowonamerica.com/products/iaudio/x5/photo.html)

ceyoung
06-05-2005, 10:32 PM
this player isnt set up for napster or yahoo yet. it has the internal clock needed to be compatable, but will need a firmware upgrade for it to work with DRM WMA.

i have an ipod 4g and the iriver h10 5gb for napster. i would never use the h10 if napster worked with ipod. i think you'll be disappointed moving from the controls of the ipod to the iriver. from what i hear the creative zen micro is pretty good.

Levi King
06-06-2005, 12:04 AM
I've got a Creative Zen Micro and it's great. If you want to take advantage of a windows media subcription service (like Napster or newcomer Yahoo which is $5 - 6/ month)then you have to get a compatible player (Ipods are NOT compatible). See www.playsforsure.com (http://www.playsforsure.com) for info. BTW - subscription services are the future of downloadable music and Apple is stubbornly refusing to move in that direction, which is a terrible business decision.

If you want to see reviews by a guy who's looking for an ipod killer, I recommend reading this guy's blog:

Digital Media on Omar's Blog (http://www.shahine.com/omar/CategoryView,category,Technology,Digital%20Audio.a spx)

In particular:
Creative Zen Micro vs Ipod review (http://www.shahine.com/omar/CreativeZenMicroVsIPod.aspx)

Enjoy.

Tron
06-06-2005, 12:09 AM
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BTW - subscription services are the future of downloadable music and Apple is stubbornly refusing to move in that direction, which is a terrible business decision.

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Of course when you say "downloadable" you mean "stream-able," right?

swede123
06-06-2005, 11:11 AM
I have a Creative Nomad Zen Xtra. It's quite a bit bigger than the full size Ipod (especially thicker), but to me price was a definite consideration. I got a 60 GB model for $250, which is half of what Apple charges. The interface is pretty good and so
far I really like it. And it's so nice to be able to put every song you come across on it and still have room for plenty more.

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=creative+nomad+zen+xtra/v=2/SID=w/TID=I037_75/l=IVI/SIG=1441sr90h/EXP=1118156970/*-http%3A//img.epinions.com/images/opti/7b/a2/pr-Creative_Labs_Nomad_Jukebox_Zen_Xtra_30GB_MP3_Play er-resized200.jpg

Swede

Packerfan1
06-06-2005, 12:15 PM
I picked up the Creative Zen Micro 5GB that is compatible with the Napster to Go service.

I'd recommend it highly. Great sound (I'd also recommend Sony headphones if you hate the earbud things like I do, you'll find review on cnet.com). And paying $15 a month to have the thing constantly loaded with 2000 songs kicks ass.

FWIW..

Pack

IndieMatty
06-06-2005, 12:21 PM
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Iriver H10, end of story. Got one a week ago, couldn't be happier with it. I got the 20gig for I think $290 and I think it's far superior to my friend's Ipod.

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I have the 40 gig. It's better then the IPOD.

Levi King
06-06-2005, 01:21 PM
No, by "downloadable" I mean "downloadable." Microsoft has developed a DRM scheme that lets you download files that you can play on your computer - online or offline - and transfer to compatible music players like the Creative Zen Micro. It's not streaming. When your subscription runs out the download stops playing. The only drawbacks - you can't burn the downloaded songs and you can't transfer to more than a few computers.

IndieMatty
06-06-2005, 01:22 PM
For clarification. I have the now outdated IHP140. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Levi King
06-06-2005, 01:23 PM
I highly recommended you check out Yahoo Music's new Unlimited subscription program. If you commit to a year it's a third of the price of Napster. I switched last month and the selection is just as good - there are some albums I couldn't get on Yahoo that were available on Napster, but the reverse was true as well.

tbach24
06-06-2005, 01:23 PM
Sorta off topic, but does anyone know how to take music off of an iPod?

meep_42
06-06-2005, 01:46 PM
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Patrick Del Poker Grande loves this one (http://eng.iaudio.com/product/product_M3.php). Seriously.

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That looks very, very nice.

Looks like my birthday present to myself. Thank you, rakeback.

-d

GrandmaStabone
06-06-2005, 02:16 PM
Try This One (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2565179&page=0&view=colla psed&sb=5&o=14&fpart=1)

fsuplayer
06-06-2005, 02:58 PM
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Try This One (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2565179&page=0&view=colla psed&sb=5&o=14&fpart=1)

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thats the one the girl tried to sell me, but the iriver was much easier to use.

im going with the iriver H10 20gb. it rocks.
unfortunately it doesnt come out with the sweet triple titanium color until mid july, but the blue is good for now.
thanks for all the help guys.

fsuplayer

Anders_G
06-06-2005, 04:51 PM
I'd go for Monolith MX-7050 (not a harddrive player)
Here are some images (http://www.sweclockers.com/html/recension/rec_050131_MonlithSlide.php?page=print) (Swedish review).

The summary says:
"Monolith MX-7050 is one of the best players on the market. The price is the same as similar high-end products - this is a player for those of you who want the best in audio quality.

Positive: Appearance, high headphone volume, charged in less than 1h, clear display
Negative: Relative high price, feels slightly plastic, usb 1.1, only 11hrs playtime

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This player does not feature a harddrive, rather it has a flash-card that holds 1GB at max.
68 x 36 x 17,2 mm and 50 grams is about half that of an iPod mini, both when it comes to size and weight.

It's a balance where you have to chose between small size and weight at the sacrifice of storage space. If you change your mind and want a flash-card player this is the one to have.

Also, the Monolith can play any kind of mp3s, not just legally downloaded ones.