give it up?

[dark_horse]

any point raising PF here? any point betting the turn?

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (11 SB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, CO calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG+1 folds, CO calls.

River: (10.50 BB) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero folds, SB calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

[biggins]

I just call this preflop. The turn is a tough one, but I think after all the calls on the flop you're probably beat.

[shadow29]

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I just call this preflop. The turn is a tough one, but I think after all the calls on the flop you're probably beat.

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I think that this is really weak/tight. You might have the correct post flop line, but for the wrong reasons. Raising 99 pf is pretty standard.

I check the turn, FWIW.

[biggins]

I knew I would get a weak tight comment on the preflop line, but against two limpers I think the 9's are best played for set value here. What should be the reasons for my postflop line then?

[shadow29]

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I knew I would get a weak tight comment on the preflop line, but against two limpers I think the 9's are best played for set value here. What should be the reasons for my postflop line then?

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Against two limpers 99 has a sufficient equity edge to make a value raise. "Playing for set value" is a really dumb reasoning, to be blunt.

When you said "...after all those calls on the flop you're beat" I think that's the wrong reasoning. What do you think might be some better reasons for checking the turn?

[biggins]

Is your equity that great against 4 opponents who could have every over card imaginable? And I don't know why else to check the turn that's why I was asking,lol. I feel like I do have tigh/weak tendencies I'll admit. Advice would be appreciated.thanks.

[New001]

They've already likely made one loose call preflop, make them make another too. 4-way, 99 is still fine for a raise, and you can possibly push one or both blinds out. You'll flop an overpair a significant amount of time, as well.

[Bill C]

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I just call this preflop. The turn is a tough one, but I think after all the calls on the flop you're probably beat.

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Terrible advice.
You can represent a much larger hand with a PF raise, plus it's a bet for value.
With a pot this large, I'd call it down on the river.


bc

[private joker]

I like the PF raise and the flop bet. I think a turn check is in order.

[ihardlyknowher]

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any point raising PF here? any point betting the turn?

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (11 SB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, CO calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG+1 folds, CO calls.

River: (10.50 BB) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero folds, SB calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

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I like the preflop raise. Turn is tough but ...
If their is any point to betting the turn, you have to call the river when an 8 (or lower falls).

P.S. I would not overcall.