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ArturiusX
06-04-2005, 10:50 PM
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Preflop: Hero is CO with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB folds.

River: (6.50 BB) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero ????

Opponent is a nice 40/5 average player.

wildwood
06-05-2005, 01:11 AM
Doesn't seem like a good value bet here when the ace falls on the river after the king turn card. (In the games I play in, lots of people play ace rag, but king rag is not as likely) If you bet and get called or raised, you're going to see a better hand most of the time in my opinion. I would check behind and show it down. (I think the chances are less than 50% of betting and getting called by a worse hand) fwiw

einbert
06-05-2005, 01:18 AM
Does he defend his SB often?

I think this is close but I probably bet it.

aK13
06-05-2005, 01:36 AM
I'd probably check behind here.

Backstabr
06-05-2005, 01:39 AM
Check behind. What could he call with that you beat? May if his went to showdown stat is way high.

If he c/r's, its a pretty clear fold.

Buckmulligan
06-05-2005, 01:55 AM
I think there is no value in betting here for value, but perhaps a very small amount in betting to fold QJ. Still, though, we check.

einbert
06-05-2005, 02:26 AM
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Does he defend his SB often?

I think this is close but I probably bet it.

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Still close, but I check behind. Villian might very well fold a 66-TT that was played this way to our river bet.

Catt
06-05-2005, 02:30 AM
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Does he defend his SB often?

I think this is close but I probably bet it.

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Still close, but I check behind. Villian might very well fold a 66-TT that was played this way to our river bet.

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Very nice point. I check behind here - not out of fear of Villain holding an ace but because he almost certainly folds to a river bet if he is actually beat.

hmkpoker
06-05-2005, 02:36 AM
Something to keep in mind when choosing between a value bet and a free showdown-

1) Are you more than 50% sure that you're ahead?
2) If you're behind, how likely is it that the hand that he has that beats you is very strong and he's planning a check-raise?

I personally would take the showdown. There's a lot he could have called down, including an ace. You're basically hoping he called a small pocket or a worse flop pair.

ArturiusX
06-05-2005, 03:09 AM
Yeah I checked, he showed T5 and MHIG

einbert
06-05-2005, 03:16 AM
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Yeah I checked, he showed T5 and MHIG

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Wow, make a note of his incredibly loose SB defense, will be good to know he has a VERY wide range of hands when he calls your LP raise from the SB next time.