This hand hurts my head

[Newt_Buggs]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Button (t7755)
Hero (t910)
BB (t765)
UTG (t570)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>
$50
BB is a good player
BS is a loose passive donk



bonus questions- if you were in the BB and the SB pushed what hands would you call with?

[Voltron87]

I probably fold this one here. I'm close to pushing though.

[xLukex]

I fold.

Two players with less chips. Let them make the move.

[xLukex]

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I fold.

Two players with less chips. Let them make the move.

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Ok, one player with less since BB will get 300 more when you fold here.

Whatever, let UTG fight the big stack.

[NYCNative]

I fold. One of them will call and you will be behind.

[Voltron87]

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I fold. One of them will call and you will be behind.

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only one person can call here

[xLukex]

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I fold. One of them will call and you will be behind.

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Button folded. Just BB and hero left.

[NYCNative]

I misread. I still fold though.

[Phill S]

If BB is an idiot, he may consider himself 'committed'.

If he's not theres prolly a pretty large range he calls here, such as any pair, any ace, Kt+, QJ+, J9s+.

I dont know how this plugs into ICM, but im not liking the push. Play for 3rd at this point, then worry bout 2nd by unleashing your maniacal tendancies.

If one or both small stacks we a bit bigger, my advice would often change. Im also assuming no reads.

Phill

edit, shoulda read it better, BB is a good player. I still fold however.

[GoldenHorde]

Seems like a clear case of any 2 to me with a solid player in the BB. Picking up the blinds here most likely means both short stacks will be put on the block before you are.

[curtains]

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Button (t7755)
Hero (t910)
BB (t765)
UTG (t570)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>
$50
BB is a good player
BS is a loose passive donk



bonus questions- if you were in the BB and the SB pushed what hands would you call with?

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I would absolutely move allin and I dont think it's close. Even a crazy player will usually fold here, noticing that they are fighting for 3rd place. Ok it's close, but the % of times that they will fold here should make it +EV.

Note that even if you lose the hand, you have relatively decent chances of getting 3rd place.