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DavidC
06-04-2005, 04:18 PM
4 limpers to me. 2 of them have vpips over 30% after 30 hands. One is unknown. The big blind is tight aggressive.

I'm in the small blind. Do I complete?

Would the table have to be very very aggressive post-flop for me to do this?

--Dave.

istewart
06-04-2005, 04:20 PM
I nearly always complete any two cards above ten.

Bodhi
06-04-2005, 04:21 PM
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I'm in the small blind. Do I complete?

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Yes.

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Would the table have to be very very aggressive post-flop for me to do this?

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No.

Completing JTo in the SB is standard in every limit game I play in.

benkath1
06-04-2005, 04:22 PM
I would call here. Is your question whether to call or to raise? Isn't that the kind of pot you want with off suit connectors, many opponnents?

Shillx
06-04-2005, 04:23 PM
Yes complete here, as long as the SB is >= 1/2 BB. I don't know what I would do in a 1/3 game. I would probably still end up completing. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Brad

AdamL
06-04-2005, 04:23 PM
Yes, complete. Doesn't have to be aggressive post flop. You can win with top pair flopped.

Some stats (because I know how your mind works /images/graemlins/laugh.gif)

9,433,108 games 26.485 secs 356,167 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 22.2039 % [ 00.22 00.00 ] { JhTs }
Hand 2: 15.9812 % [ 00.16 00.00 ] { Kh5d }
Hand 3: 17.8809 % [ 00.18 00.00 ] { 8d7d }
Hand 4: 25.1658 % [ 00.25 00.00 ] { As9s }
Hand 5: 18.7682 % [ 00.19 00.00 ] { 6d6c }

aK13
06-04-2005, 04:23 PM
9:1....easy call.

AdamL
06-04-2005, 04:24 PM
wow, that was fast. I thought I was going to be first. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

DavidC
06-04-2005, 04:25 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Yes, complete. Doesn't have to be aggressive post flop. You can win with top pair flopped.

Some stats (because I know how your mind works /images/graemlins/laugh.gif)

9,433,108 games 26.485 secs 356,167 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 22.2039 % [ 00.22 00.00 ] { JhTs }
Hand 2: 15.9812 % [ 00.16 00.00 ] { Kh5d }
Hand 3: 17.8809 % [ 00.18 00.00 ] { 8d7d }
Hand 4: 25.1658 % [ 00.25 00.00 ] { As9s }
Hand 5: 18.7682 % [ 00.19 00.00 ] { 6d6c }

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You have to put them on a range.

Grr!

Fair enough though, because those are pretty typical hands ( a little higher quality actually. key here is domination. it kills you).

--Dave.

DavidC
06-04-2005, 04:26 PM
Cool.

Thanks guys.

--Dave.