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Jakesta
06-04-2005, 03:20 PM
I'm mainly concerned about the turn action: Should I have 3bet here?

I am ahead of 95 and 92, but behind a slowplayer set, or K9/K5.

Who likes the line? I don't think I can find a river fold here with two pair, so I called the fish down. I sometimes worry that I am missing out on bets by playing hands like this too passively.


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Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP3 calls.

River: (13.50 BB) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG folds, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: 15.50 BB

Bodhi
06-04-2005, 03:33 PM
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I sometimes worry that I am missing out on bets by playing hands like this too passively.

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Bingo.

Jakesta
06-04-2005, 03:36 PM
So you 3bet and call down if capped?

Bodhi
06-04-2005, 03:38 PM
Yes. I don't think the villain made kings-up.

aK13
06-04-2005, 04:41 PM
I don't typically 3bet here. I want to know what other people think. With top two, though, I will auto-3bet.

StevieG
06-04-2005, 05:19 PM
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I don't typically 3bet here. I want to know what other people think. With top two, though, I will auto-3bet.

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I 3-bet. That raise does not seem to indicate Kings up any more than it does a suited K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, so why not make the other palyers in the pot contribute?

Redd
06-04-2005, 06:01 PM
I think it's close on if you get value out of it (I'd argue there's a bit of value), but it also puts some pressure on the other two players would could be drawing live. So I'd 3-bet it.

edit: Maybe there's more value there than at first glance. villain could be betting his four-flush, and his relative position makes me think he's more likely to be waiting to raise a good TP hand. 3-bet that mofo.

Duerig
06-04-2005, 07:15 PM
My thinking in a hand like this is that the villian is fairly likely to be on some kind of draw. Raising the turn gives him the chance to check behind on the river if he misses. However, I think that might be giving your opponents too much credit. I might bet call the turn and then bet out on the river blank.