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[1800GAMBLER]

Player in this hand is a regular. He's loose preflop and decent postflop, we don't have much of a history apart from a hand where i hit an over set on a 678 board and stack his 66. His min preflop raises seems to be frequent and he has two raising amounts, the min and $80. $80 is not that frequent.

Notice stack sizes.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter (http://www.pokerhand.org)

CO ($764)
Button ($1890)
SB ($2711.5)
BB ($3200.5)
Hero ($3790)
UTG+1 ($2060.5)
UTG+2 ($2846)
MP1 ($2885)
MP2 ($1139)
MP3 ($1635.49)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif. SB posts a blind of $10.
Hero calls $20, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls $20, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $20</font>, Hero calls $20, MP2 calls $20.

Flop: ($130) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $60</font>, Hero calls $60, MP2 folds.

Turn: ($250) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $700</font>, BB calls $500.

River: ($1650) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks.

Yea. This seems like a situation in which a little more knowledge would go a long way.

[fsuplayer]

1150 sounds like a good #. he can call with top twoish hands, or if he was slowplaying the straight.

maybe he even has 89hh type hand.

[1800GAMBLER]

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1150 sounds like a good #. he can call with top twoish hands, or if he was slowplaying the straight.

maybe he even has 89hh type hand.

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If he c/r's all in what my plan? Chances of him doing this with 89h?

Also, in his shoes do you call with AK AA on the river?

[fsuplayer]

[censored], im playing ATM and didnt realize the board was paired. sry.

i say bet 700-800 and fold to a reraise.

[fsuplayer]

chances of him CRing 89hh, are almost none.

[1800GAMBLER]

Thanks thanks. Last one, /images/graemlins/smile.gif Also, in his shoes do you call with AK AA on the river?

[fsuplayer]

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Thanks thanks. Last one, /images/graemlins/smile.gif Also, in his shoes do you call with AK AA on the river?

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i think if he gets this far with either one of those hands, he's not folding for a 1/2 pot on the end, especially when the board pairs.

[theBruiser500]

the flop is interesting, i'd normally fold but you are getting 3:1 and a big thing is that you are in good position to get a free turn card or bluff equity. the only thing is the guy behind you raises a significant amoutn of the time. i think thef lop is a fold

[1800GAMBLER]

Man, no way.

[Yeti]

I think folding this flop is pretty bad.

[theBruiser500]

jay maybe you forgot this is NL not limit and you have a gutshot straight draw. you are getting 3:1 with 4 outs, maybe 5 outs (backdoor draw), maybe some pair outs, but you aren't even closing the action.

[1800GAMBLER]

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I think folding this flop is pretty bad.

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edit: i wont be a dick. run some math with some assumptions. i.e. i stack him if he has KK JJ. I get good value if he has AA AK and i pick up the pot when he gives up on the turn with whatever. There aren't really any bad situations here at all. As said, i think folding is BAD.

In this situation i already profited on the turn.

[Yeti]

I think it being NL is even more of a reason to call.

[captZEEbo1]

How likely does AA/KK/AK make that raise pf, btw. Ocassionally I see huge donks do it, but I'm not sure if thinking pros do it to mess up other thinking pros.

[Prevaricator]

FWIW, the BB's hand looks a lot more like JTs than a big pair.

[1800GAMBLER]

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FWIW, the BB's hand looks a lot more like JTs than a big pair.

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Confident enough to check the river then?

[Prevaricator]

His play is really strange, but generally speaking min raises OOP into a large field are stuff like QJs, or small pairs. Checking the river is kind of strange, but the only hand that you beat that he will pay off is 98h and that is really unlikely. I don't see how he calls the turn with it, he has to take into account that his Q out is probably not good and his other straight out could not be good as well. The more I think about this the more a check comes to mind.

If you think he could have AA or AK or QJs (he would have to be bad to play those hands like that) then I'd throw out like 840 and fold to a CR. I don't see him playing those hands like that though.

I guess KQs is also a possibility if he's really bad