Raise river with 2nd nuts?

[Lmn55d]

I think I like all of this, but I'm not sure about river.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls.

Flop: (13.40 SB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, CO folds, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (9.70 BB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, MP calls.

River: (13.70 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19.70 BB

[Dov]

I don't think I like the river raise here.

MP played his hand like an Ah the whole way.

I like the rest of the hand, though.

I think I just call this river.

Dov

[cmwck]

Could you explain why you think the flop bet is good?
This is one area where I'm not always sure why I'm betting, other than "uh, I usually auto-bet after I raise preflop"

[Lmn55d]

well here's the reasons I bet it. First, I likely have pretty solid equity with a draw to the 2nd nuts and some dirty overcards. Thus its not that big a deal if I'm raised (unless its by a hand that has the A of hearts which really hurts my equity) and the bet might be for value if 2 or so people call. Secondly, it could fold Ax type hands, helping me win without a showdown if it gets headsup on turn and I bet, or something like that. Third, a lot of times it gets me a free river.

[joker122]

you actually have the 4th nuts (yeah, i'm a loser) but i'd still raise.

[hypermegachi]

i'll top you on the loser category...5th nuts!

nuts: 4h 5h 6h 7h 8h
2nd nuts: 3h 4h 5h 6h 7h
3rd nuts: 2h 3h 4h 5h 6h
4th nuts: Ah 3h 4h 5h xh
5th nuts: Kh 3h 4h 5h xh

i still raise it too :P

[toffer]

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MP played his hand like an Ah the whole way.


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MP would also play Qh T this way.

But I agree that Ah is most likely, and I would just call the river raise.

[istewart]

OWNED.

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