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alphatmw
06-03-2005, 06:13 PM
5+.50 at pokerroom.

its crazy how much better this is than cash games online. i pissed away money online for a long time then decided to quit.. recently deposited $11 for 2 sngs and now i built it up to $70.

10 SnGs.. in the money 70% of the time

questions...
is the $10+1 much harder than the 5+.50 tables?
how often do you guys place in these 10 people SnGs?

i feel like im just on a good run right now. i always play 2 at a time and haven't lost both at once yet.

TStokes
06-03-2005, 06:20 PM
no they are not much different 40% is a good number to shoot for

MentalCombat
06-03-2005, 06:23 PM
You will be fine in the 10's, but understand that your 70% itm is impossible to sustain. Like the poster above said, a good player should shoot for 40%

microbet
06-03-2005, 06:25 PM
$70 is a very very small bankroll for the $11s. If busting out is going to be a major disappointment, stay in the $6s until you have about $300.

alphatmw
06-03-2005, 06:25 PM
dang i'm not looking forward to my streak of losses then. another newb question.. how do i calculate ROI?

and $300?? that seems pretty steep.. i need about 30x the buy in?

and one more question.. is there any time of day where the games are usually easier? i played late at night yesterday and this afternoon and i felt like the afternoon games were tougher. people were more cautious and once it got to 4 people, it was tight as hell.

psyduck
06-03-2005, 06:32 PM
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$70 is a very very small bankroll for the $11s. If busting out is going to be a major disappointment, stay in the $6s until you have about $300.

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definitely. there was a time when I had a very small bankroll for the 10+1s, so I moved down to the 5+1s to build up so that I wouldn't have to redeposit. now I am comfortably playing the 20+2s and will be making the shift to 30+3s soon.

don't play at the 5+1s too long though, maybe till you have 15-20 buyins for the 10+1s. the rake at the lower limit is killer.

MentalCombat
06-03-2005, 06:32 PM
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dang i'm not looking forward to my streak of losses then. another newb question.. how do i calculate ROI?

and $300?? that seems pretty steep.. i need about 30x the buy in?

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you could probably get away with 20, but if you have a bad streak right at the beginning, you are at risk of going broke. ROI = money you got out/money you invested

Example, you played 1 and only 1 5+.50, placed 1st, for a total of 25 bucks

your ROI would be 25/5.5 or 454%

a good ROI to shoot for at low levels is anything 25+, maxing at around 40 for awesome players.

MentalCombat
06-03-2005, 06:33 PM
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the rake at the lower limit is killer.

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hes not playing party.

Moonsugar
06-03-2005, 06:50 PM
You are only in the money 70%??!!!!111?

You need to kick it in to gear son.

Holler.

alphatmw
06-03-2005, 07:28 PM
thanks for the replies guys. i'll see how long i can keep this up.

Psy_Mike
06-03-2005, 07:33 PM
I really recommend 30-35 buy-ins before advancing up to the next lvl.

This for several reasons. For one, you WILL get a bad beat at some point, and once you get it and your BR isn't high enough, you might get an underlying fear of getting outside the money in the next one you play which will affect your play greater than many think.

The other reason is that in my opinion it's very important to have discipline in poker. Try to set up a goal of 30-35 buy-ins before you advance up to the next lvl. And don't sneak peak at the next lvl. Try to hold that discipline! It will be boring at times struggling with the $5+0,5, but I think it's very important to build a good discipline in poker, especially in an advancing state.

Goodluck /images/graemlins/smile.gif

DasLeben
06-03-2005, 07:33 PM
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You are only in the money 70%??!!!!111?

You need to kick it in to gear SON.

Holla.

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FYP

tomdemaine
06-03-2005, 07:46 PM
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people were more cautious and once it got to 4 people, it was tight as hell.

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This is a very good thing for you BTW

TheNoodleMan
06-03-2005, 07:53 PM
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people were more cautious and once it got to 4 people, it was tight as hell.

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This is a very good thing for you BTW

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this is truth is its purest form. Learn to punish these bubble pussies. Become a bubble warrior.

alphatmw
06-03-2005, 08:25 PM
why so high, im curious? is losing a bankroll of 20x really that likely? it seems like you'd have to go on a crazy bad streak to lose that much.

introv
06-03-2005, 08:34 PM
In my last 1000 the most I've dropped has been 10 buyins. But I consider myself to have been very fortunate that this is the case. I have dropped 10 on a couple of different occasions though and if I had dropped 10 on two consecutive occasions then I'd have dropped 20. It's easy!

When you've played a few hundred more you'll start to understand why people recommend having more than a couple of buyins for the level that you are at. Personally, I usually keep 60-80 but currently have 90 although I'm thinking of moving up again soon.

Maybe thats overkill but it sure feels good to have that level of security to me.

alphatmw
06-03-2005, 08:53 PM
i see. maybe its hard for me to see because i'm having INCREDIBLE luck right now. its crazyyyy. short stacked (700?) at my last one with 6 people remaining and i ended up in first.

after 12 tourneys.. ROI 220% and ITM 67%. i've built 2 buy ins to 16. god i hope this continues for a while.

pergesu
06-03-2005, 09:11 PM
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i see. maybe its hard for me to see because i'm having INCREDIBLE luck right now. its crazyyyy. short stacked (700?) at my last one with 6 people remaining and i ended up in first.

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Yesterday I got down to 30 chips and came back to win. Can't touch this (duh nuh nuh nuh)

06-03-2005, 09:16 PM
Dude, I never won at poker until I started playing SnGs. SnGs are the easiest form of poker.

alphatmw
06-03-2005, 09:46 PM
thats why i just learned yesterday /images/graemlins/cool.gif

ripped
06-03-2005, 09:56 PM
I went from 25 chips with 3 left to the win..

EAT IT BITCHES

beeyjay
06-03-2005, 09:56 PM
yesterday i had a 70% ITM in the 55s over 10 games. I think you should probably step up to at least the 20s. Killing the game is easy.

Blarg
06-04-2005, 12:12 AM
Yesterday I was ITM 50% of my first 20, and was ITM once out of the next 14 games.

There's variation in this form of poker just like any other.

alphatmw
06-04-2005, 04:07 AM
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Example, you played 1 and only 1 5+.50, placed 1st, for a total of 25 bucks

your ROI would be 25/5.5 or 454%

[/ QUOTE ]is this right? shouldn't it be 19.5/5.5 or 354%?