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Karak567
06-03-2005, 03:03 PM
After seeing this flop, should I still try to extract a LITTLE more value out of QQ?

I think I've gotten the most value I can and just need to take it down right there... right?

***** Hand History for Game 2148659335 *****
NL Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:12775882 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Friday, June 03, 15:00:21 EDT 2005
Table Table 11068 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: PeteIII ( $745 )
Seat 2: robgakhal ( $805 )
Seat 3: sepher28 ( $785 )
Seat 5: Craig29111 ( $700 )
Seat 6: Clownfishy ( $775 )
Seat 7: WINN7 ( $1085 )
Seat 8: migsan ( $730 )
Seat 9: cocoaskid ( $745 )
Seat 10: Wags4141 ( $1630 )
Trny:12775882 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to sepher28 [ Qs Qc ]
sepher28 raises [60].
Craig29111 calls [60].
Clownfishy folds.
>You have options at Table 11226 Table!.
WINN7 folds.
migsan folds.
cocoaskid folds.
Wags4141 calls [60].
PeteIII calls [50].
robgakhal calls [45].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 7h, Jd ]
PeteIII checks.
robgakhal checks.
sepher28 is all-In [725]

Voltron87
06-03-2005, 03:04 PM
I play it differently on every street. Raise more pf. The flop all in is bad, youre getting bad odds on the pot and youre only getting called by a hand that beats you.

NegativeEV
06-03-2005, 03:31 PM
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I play it differently on every street. Raise more pf.

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The raise was 4 x BB. What do you raise to here? Is your standard raise on level one > 4xBB? I think the raise was fine first to act. I vary my openning raises a bit based on table reads, but my range first to act from early position would be T50 to T75- I generally wouldn't make a larger raise than this.

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The flop all in is bad, youre getting bad odds on the pot and youre only getting called by a hand that beats you.

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In a $33 you will get called by worse hands very frequently with a field this size and that board (many PP's TT-66 will call along with the occasional AK-AQ). This hand could be played a lot of ways post flop and many different ways could be +$EV. I think pushing is a simple/acceptable approach (although it may not be the highest $EV).