Party Ban PlayerView and GameTime??

[adamstewart]

cross-post (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=2544253&page=0&view=c ollapsed&sb=5&o=7&fpart=1)

[Jeff W]

I'm running gametime+ right now and it's working fine.

[adamstewart]

PV not working for me.

[Mr_J]

same here

[Jeff W]

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PV not working for me.

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Yeah, PV is broken. Good luck trying to fix it--Amir is outta town.

[ZimbuTheMonkey]

More importantly, good luck getting your money back...

[1C5]

damn, that was a waste of $50.

[Emmitt2222]

GT+ vers. 1.4.2 working on Eurobet right now. Its just a problem with PV.

[1C5]

Never checked but can GT be used with SnGs?

Time to switch if it can.

[goodguy_1]

Looks like GT+ is the way to go until Amir is back in town with some answers.

I dont mind GT+ I've been using it at Paradise and PokerStars alot of late without any issues but PV imo is a much better overall program.

[jackdaniels]

I use GT only cause I play at Stars. I like the way PV looks but to pay $50 for something that does not have constant support (the guy is outta town?!?!?!?!?) is ridiculous. If I am gonna pay for a product I expect some modicum of support (either directly from the manufacturor or from a dedicated base of users via forum).

Not to knock PV as I would have at least tried it if it was supported on Stars (it does look good), but I don't like the sounds of this "failure"...

[goodguy_1]

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I expect some modicum of support (either directly from the manufacturor or from a dedicated base of users via forum).


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PlayerView.net Forums (http://www.playerview.net/forums/)

[OrianasDaad]

There was no software update for party, so Party hasn't banned them.

I am a little distressed that the product wasn't adequately tested before release, but I think I'll wait till Amir gets back to sort things out before asking for a refund because:

-I used this program for free for months.
-Amir worked hard to produce a product that is valuable to his market (us). He deserves the time off for a bit.
-Up till now, I've had no problems with PV.

PV dropped the ball here, for sure, but there's no reason to worry about getting ripped off.

[mb2696]

Just my luck since I bought PV yesterday.

However...
From Jim on PV Forum: [ QUOTE ]
I just got off the phone with Amir, he will get to work on resolving the recent Party Poker problem sometime this afternoon. I'll keep you posted with any additional news arrives.

[/ QUOTE ] link (http://www.playerview.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=528)

[daveymck]

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Just my luck since I bought PV yesterday.

However...
From Jim on PV Forum: [ QUOTE ]
I just got off the phone with Amir, he will get to work on resolving the recent Party Poker problem sometime this afternoon. I'll keep you posted with any additional news arrives.

[/ QUOTE ] link (http://www.playerview.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=528)

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Me too havent even activated it yet.

[Smackdab]

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He deserves the time off for a bit.

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One week after you have released an upgrade and charge a fee is no time for a vacation.

I own/manage student apartments in a college town. Since all leases begin and end at the same time all security deposits are refunded on the same date. Can you imagine me mailing out deposit refunds and going on vacation the next day leaving no one to handle the complaints/concerns of the recipients??

[DMBFan23]

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cross-post (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=2544253&page=0&view=c ollapsed&sb=5&o=7&fpart=1)

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I sure hope so. I hope amir made some money for his hard work, and I hope everyone realizes their 50 bucks was really as much to pay for all the free use they've gotten so far, as much as it was to register a product for future use.

if it goes I sure as hell won't miss it

[slavic]

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He deserves the time off for a bit.

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One week after you have released an upgrade and charge a fee is no time for a vacation.

I own/manage student apartments in a college town. Since all leases begin and end at the same time all security deposits are refunded on the same date. Can you imagine me mailing out deposit refunds and going on vacation the next day leaving no one to handle the complaints/concerns of the recipients??

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Actually this is not uncommon practice in software development at all. You hit gold date, continue your beta and sort out late problems if any, hit release and then take some time off. Once the product is in general circulation odd issues are goign to occur and you'll need that time off to recharge and prepare for those.

Unfortunatly this product is an add on product and Amir can't anticipate all of the problems that will come but he's been fairly quick to make fixes. He also has a support person on staff, so saying he left the ship to sail itself is wrong.

For those of you who poo poo the price, get a grip. I looked at how my expectation in the games I play might change, did a little quick math and decided that a program such as this would not only be helpfull but if available necessary. I then estimated the number of hours it would take me to write it, and guess what even that opportunity cost was not high enough to be prohibitive versus writing the program. So let's just say the price is inexpensive for almost any stake outside of the micros.

[afk]

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if it goes I sure as hell won't miss it

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I think I agree with you here. I didn't buy PV, and opted to use GT+ instead but in all honesty I'm not really using it to it's capacity - so I turned it off a few days ago and found myself paying SO much more attention to the players habits, rather than their stats. I usually only 2 or 3 table at most so I still have some capacity to develop reads (I have a lot of trouble at 4 or more without relying on stats).

[ripped]

yeah..is he allowed to go away or does he have to sit at home and worry that 1 day PV might not work?

[Isura]

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if it goes I sure as hell won't miss it

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I think I agree with you here. I didn't buy PV, and opted to use GT+ instead but in all honesty I'm not really using it to it's capacity - so I turned it off a few days ago and found myself paying SO much more attention to the players habits, rather than their stats. I usually only 2 or 3 table at most so I still have some capacity to develop reads (I have a lot of trouble at 4 or more without relying on stats).

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I agree with you. Except, now I have to go to the trouble of opening up the hand history window to see the showdown hands . That's the only feature I really utilized with PV.

[LuvDemNutz]

I just bought PV yesterday. What bad timing...

[bobbyi]

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For those of you who poo poo the price, get a grip. I looked at how my expectation in the games I play might change, did a little quick math and decided that a program such as this would not only be helpfull but if available necessary. I then estimated the number of hours it would take me to write it, and guess what even that opportunity cost was not high enough to be prohibitive versus writing the program. So let's just say the price is inexpensive for almost any stake outside of the micros.

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I don't agree with your math at all. You are saying that PV is worth $50 if the alternative is using nothing, but that is not the alternative. The alternative is GT+ which is free. The question isn't whether PV adds enough to your earn rate to be $50 better in the long run than using nothing, it is whether it is $50 better than GT+.

[jmrogers7]

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For those of you who poo poo the price, get a grip. I looked at how my expectation in the games I play might change, did a little quick math and decided that a program such as this would not only be helpfull but if available necessary. I then estimated the number of hours it would take me to write it, and guess what even that opportunity cost was not high enough to be prohibitive versus writing the program. So let's just say the price is inexpensive for almost any stake outside of the micros.

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I don't agree with your math at all. You are saying that PV is worth $50 if the alternative is using nothing, but that is not the alternative. The alternative is GT+ which is free. The question isn't whether PV adds enough to your earn rate to be $50 better in the long run than using nothing, it is whether it is $50 better than GT+.

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FINALLY! Someone who actually understands the heart of the issue!

[GoblinMason (Craig)]

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damn, that was a waste of $50.

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I'm glad I didn't buy that piece of poo.

-Craig

[sthief09]

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There was no software update for party, so Party hasn't banned them.

I am a little distressed that the product wasn't adequately tested before release, but I think I'll wait till Amir gets back to sort things out before asking for a refund because:

-I used this program for free for months.
-Amir worked hard to produce a product that is valuable to his market (us). He deserves the time off for a bit.
-Up till now, I've had no problems with PV.

PV dropped the ball here, for sure, but there's no reason to worry about getting ripped off.

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thank you for being rational

[donger]

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There was no software update for party, so Party hasn't banned them.

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They have at least changed SOME things. They had like 4 hrs of downtime the other night (my friend was 6 handed in a WSOP super, ack) and the new 20/40 and 2000 NL/PL tables popped up.

[TStoneMBD]

you guys are all lucky. i apparently am the only god damn person in the world who cannot use gametime+. i could care less about the $50 i just want a functional addon for pokertracker damnit.

if someone can find a solution to my gametime+ runtime problems i will pay you $10 a day (up to $150) until playerview is repaired.

[zram21]

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you guys are all lucky. i apparently am the only god damn person in the world who cannot use gametime+. i could care less about the $50 i just want a functional addon for pokertracker damnit.

if someone can find a solution to my gametime+ runtime problems i will pay you $10 a day (up to $150) until playerview is repaired.

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Have you tried this? (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2437386) I haven't used his program, but maybe it will hold you over until PV is fixed.

[Catt]

A fix has been posted and appears to be working for me.

[theredpill6]

Hey, Tstone , you can't get GT+ to work at all ? You have java runtime problems or what ?

[TStoneMBD]

i posted about it in the software forum. yes im getting runtime errors. dont worry about it though. the playerview crisis has been repaired and im good to go now. ty though.