Playing TT

[rsq]

I was MP, with a full $800 of chips in level 1 of a party $20 SNG.

I was dealt TT. I bet $200.

Does that sound right?

Thx

[dfscott]

No, limp and try and to flop a set.

[smcannon]

Where you first in the pot? If so I might break out a 3BB bet. But generally I'm just limping this. To many ways for TT to go wrong on the flop being so early in the tournament.

[Sidekick]

I'd say very wrong.

Limp and hope to flop a set. If the pot is raised behind you, fold.

While TT looks very good, it is really just a marginal hand at a full table. There are just too many ways for it to lose to risk much of your stack with it early in a tournament.

By betting 200 here, one of two things tends to happen. You pick up the blinds... 25 chips, big whoop... or you get called by a better hand or reraised by a better hand. Even if you just get called what do you do on a AQx flop and someone then bets into you?

It seems really weak to limp with a hand like TT early in a tournament, but many very successful players advocate this strategy.

[Karak567]

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No, limp and try and to flop a set.

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[PokerCat69]

TT is a push when the blinds are worth stealing. Early in the tourny either limp or fold. I personally fold TT in this situation.

[dfscott]

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TT is a push when the blinds are worth stealing. Early in the tourny either limp or fold. I personally fold TT in this situation.

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You wouldn't risk less than 2% of your stack to try and double up?

[PokerCat69]

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You wouldn't risk less than 2% of your stack to try and double up?

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He bet t200 which is 20% of his stack (not 2%). I think thats nuts! I would not Raise TT, limp/fold/push is the only play with TT IMO.

[dfscott]

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You bet t200 which is 20% of your stack (not 2%). I think thats nuts! I would not Raise TT, limp/fold/push is the only play with TT IMO.

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Agreed, but that's not what you said. You said: "I personally fold TT in this situation." That's what I was questioning.

[DasLeben]

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You wouldn't risk less than 2% of your stack to try and double up?

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He bet t200 which is 20% of his stack (not 2%). I think thats nuts! I would not Raise TT, limp/fold/push is the only play with TT IMO.

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I think dfscott was referring to the fact that it costs you 2% of your stack to limp.

[Myst]

Push Preflop...

j/k. limp and flop a set.

[PokerCat69]

limping is valid. I'm just too tight on the first round.

[lastchance]

How many limpers were there or raises in front of you? For a raise to t200 to be anywhere near correct, there has to be at least t100 in the pot. If it's folded to you, you should never bet any hand in L1 like that.

Normally, one raises to 3x BB + 1x BB for every limper. You can make it higher or lower depending on the situation, but your bets should not vary too much from the rule I posted above.

[lastchance]

Hell, we pretty much only play AA-22, AK-AQ. You play tighter than we do? That's impressive.

[rsq]

Thx that makes alot of sense.

[tjh]

I can not find my post on PP strategy but PP strategy is pretty straightforward and new players should figure this out.

One in 8 to flop a set. Often a set can take win all of your opponents chips. So 1/8 to set, = often double up.

So if the other players or you have at least 8 times the bet but more properly 10 to 12 times the bet and no reads then play for a set. Bigger pairs can turn into overpairs on a board of rags so they have additional value, I am talking 88 99 10-10 here.

Other post flop consideration.
A paired board when you have PP either helps you a little or hurts you a lot. You have two pair and the broadway draws are still drawing or someone has trips. In general it is a good thing, well not so much a good thing but a situation that is easy to decide how to act. You make a bet to see where you are at. If they call fear the trips, if they reraise fold.


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tjh

[NYCNative]

I would raise standard (not an overbet) with Tens. I feel that they're too big to just limp with because there's only about a 15% chance someone has a bigger PP than you and about a 40% chance the flop will have no overs. I would fold to a reraise most of the time and I would be scared of boards with overs or any time I am playing with a lot of callers. Tens are kinds like Jacks - hard to play but made harder if you treat them like 5s.

[curtains]

I mostly limp TT in early position in round 1, but if Im in middle position, say like 2-3 off the button, I will raise every time (to about 45) regardless of the buyin.

[adanthar]

What he said.