How great is it that the Royals swept the Yankees?

[scott8]

Buddy Bell manager of the year /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[JesusHChrist]

Shut up, my child.

[slickpoppa]

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[The Stranger]

almost as good as:

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[Dead]

What a dumb bandwagon fan you are.

[slickpoppa]

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What a dumb bandwagon fan you are.

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I've been accused of many things in my life, but jumping on the Royals "bandwagon" is one of the dumbest things I've heard.

[Dead]

You didn't have this avatar until this series. You are a bandwagon fan. It's not so much a Royals bandwaogn as it is the let's support a shitty team just because they beat the Yankees bandwagon.

[slickpoppa]

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You didn't have this avatar until this series. You are a bandwagon fan. It's not so much a Royals bandwaogn as it is the let's support a shitty team just because they beat the Yankees bandwagon.

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I've had the avatar long before the series and I've been a Royals fan for 18 years.

[sublime]

that is one of the dumbest things I've heard.

seriosly, how often has dead heard this in his life?

[Tron]

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You didn't have this avatar until this series. You are a bandwagon fan. It's not so much a Royals bandwaogn as it is the let's support a shitty team just because they beat the Yankees three times in a row despite they have the worst record in the league bandwagon.

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[Dead]

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You didn't have this avatar until this series. You are a bandwagon fan. It's not so much a Royals bandwaogn as it is the let's support a shitty team just because they beat the Yankees bandwagon.

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I've had the avatar long before the series and I've been a Royals fan for 18 years.

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Well I feel bad for you then. Because that shitty team of minor leaguers with Jesus in their surnames is going nowhere. Nowhere!

[Aytumious]

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that is one of the dumbest things I've heard.

seriosly, how often has dead heard this in his life?

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I think it would be better to frame this not in terms of his entire life, but instead how many times per day.

[cnfuzzd]

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You didn't have this avatar until this series. You are a bandwagon fan. It's not so much a Royals bandwaogn as it is the let's support a shitty team just because they beat the Yankees bandwagon.

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I've had the avatar long before the series and I've been a Royals fan for 18 years.

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Well I feel bad for you then. Because that shitty team of minor leaguers with Jesus in their surnames is going nowhere. Nowhere!

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You have a valid point. However, your point is utterly dwarfed by the fact that this is the team that beat the yankees.

Also, i dont think the royal have a band wagon, nor has there really been any fair weather in kansas city for quite some time.

peace

john nickle

[Dead]

This was embarrassing, sure, but the Yanks will still make the playoffs, and KC won't.

[masse75]

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You didn't have this avatar until this series. You are a bandwagon fan. It's not so much a Royals bandwaogn as it is the let's support a shitty team just because they beat the Yankees bandwagon.

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Does your change of avatar mean you're on the Bette Midler bandwagon?

[scott8]

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This was embarrassing, sure, but the Yanks will still make the playoffs, and KC won't.

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Something about this statement is really cracking me up /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Dead]

The YANKEES will win the AL East.

[The Stranger]

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The YANKEES will win the AL East.

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is it possible for the new mods to sticky just this one post and not the whole thread? That'd be pretty sweet when they get eliminated from the pennant race in the east the same week the Detroit Tigets get eliminated in the central.

[Jurollo]

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This was embarrassing, sure, but the Yanks will still make the playoffs, and KC won't.

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Hmmmm I wonder why?
Payroll (2005)
Rank Team Payroll
1 New York Yankees $208,306,817
29 Kansas City Royals $36,881,000

Yup thats right folks you could have over 5 1/2 full rosters of KC for the price of 1 Yankee roster? The reason NY shouldn't stroll into the playoffs is??
~Justin

[Dead]

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

If the Yanks had swept KC, you'd say oh big deal, KC sucks. But when KC sweeps the Yankees, OHh the Yankeeees are awfull...

And you obviously know nothing about baseball besides the nerd aspect of it. The Marlins had a tiny payroll in 2003, and they still beat the Yankees in 6.

[bball233]

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The YANKEES will win the AL East.

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Would you lay $$ on this 1:1... you could make a killing I think if you are so confident. I know I am not the only one who would be interested.

[masse75]

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[Jurollo]

KC does suck, and they still swept the Yankees. The only reason this has been targeted at you is that you preach how great the Yankees are but even with that enormous payroll they are an extremely flawed team and have generally overlooked important aspects of assembling a winning team other than signing studs to huge deals. There is a decent chance they will not make the playoffs and even a better chance they don't take the AL East crown. Their run in the 90's was great, however, it is over and I wouldn't expect another championship for a little while from your boys unless they realize money can't buy them.
~Justin

[Dead]

What about Boston, fool?

They're like 2 games ahead of the Yankees so they're not exactly doing great either. They also have the second largest payroll.

[masse75]

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What about Boston, fool?

They're like 2 games ahead of the Yankees so they're not exactly doing great either. They also have the second largest payroll.

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Two games ahead = good.
Less Payroll = good.

Your argument again?

[Dead]

So stupid. the Orioles payroll is not near as big as the Sox's and neither is that of the Blue Jays. Yet the Orioles are crushing the East.

So it's obviously not all about money.

[slickpoppa]

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What about Boston, fool?

They're like 2 games ahead of the Yankees so they're not exactly doing great either. They also have the second largest payroll.

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Who said anything about Boston? Typical

[masse75]

Then how about sharing your wisdom with King George?

[bball233]

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Two games ahead = good.
Less Payroll = good.

Your argument again?

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I'm Red Sox fan but he has half a point...

Less Payroll = More Payroll than 28 other teams (or whatever # is)
2 games ahead = Not in playoffs

I still hate dead.

[Dead]

You think I like Steinbrenner? You think I like the fact that he manages this team like a fcking dumbass? You think I like the fact that he signs every washed up superstar he can get his hands on? I don't. I wish that he would build up our farm system, like most Yankee fans. But I'm not in charge. If I was in charge I guarantee you that we would not be in 4th place in the AL East.

[scott8]

This thread wasn't targeted at Dead.

My sole motivation was to rub this sweep in the face of every Yankee fan out there.

All this stuff with Dead has just been a bonus.

[masse75]

Dead in Charge:
http://www.soakingwetchild.net/thebadnewsbears/bears.jpg

[Jurollo]

I didnt say the management of Boston realized this before this season either, they got rid of a few big clubhouse guys and replaced them with cheaper facsimiles. I liked Clement, however, I still think they should have kept Lowe. I think traded Dougie M. was a big mistake and wasn't in love with the Renteria signing. Continuity is big and some front offices don't understand this, so is chemistry. I don't complain though because they won it last year so they get a 2 year reprieve from me questioning them... Bellicheck has earned about 6 years from my count.
~Justin

[Dead]

Yes, because Lowe is doing SOOO well in LA. God he's pitching in the easy as hell National League and he still can't keep his ERA below 5. What a failure. He SUCKS as a starter. He just SUCKS. He had two good games against the Yankees last year. Big deal. It didn't stop Theo from realizing that Lowe sucks!

Now, the Yankees should have kept VAZQUEZ! Trading him for RJ was STUPID!

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I didnt say the management of Boston realized this before this season either, they got rid of a few big clubhouse guys and replaced them with cheaper facsimiles. I liked Clement, however, I still think they should have kept Lowe. I think traded Dougie M. was a big mistake and wasn't in love with the Renteria signing. Continuity is big and some front offices don't understand this, so is chemistry. I don't complain though because they won it last year so they get a 2 year reprieve from me questioning them... Bellicheck has earned about 6 years from my count.
~Justin

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I disagree with almost your entire post (I love Clement as well), but this isn't about Boston.

It's about rubbing the Royals sweep of the Yankees in the face of Dead.

So celebrate!

[Jurollo]

Yankees 2nd problem... lots of huge contracts and old players

Oldest roster in MLB - Average Age of 34 yrs old (NYY)
A team that really knows what they are doing - LAA (Avg = 29.3, w/o giant overpayed contracts)
~Justin

[BigD226]

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Yes, because Lowe is doing SOOO well in LA. God he's pitching in the easy as hell National League and he still can't keep his ERA below 5.

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Now, the Yankees should have kept VAZQUEZ! Trading him for RJ was STUPID!

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Holy sh!t...I've just agreed with you not once, but twice?!

I feel like I need a shower now.

[Jack of Arcades]

Um, Derek Lowe's ERA is 3.58.

EDIT

AL 4.68 R/G, 4.27 ERA
NL 4.62 R/G, 4.27 ERA

[kyro]

I'm guessing the Yankees will go as far in the playoffs as Syracuse did in the NCAAs. Top 30ish or so sounds about right.

How is it that Dead looks like a complete retard in every single post he participates in?

[sublime]

lowe got overpayed in LA, i liked the guy and all but boston knew him better than anyone else and didnt step to the plater. a wise move IMO.

as for minky, well i agree with you. however, he was traded 'because' of the clunhouse guy (millar) which goes against your previous (and final) statement. one of them had to go. renteria is what he is, a great shortstop with decent hitting abilites. give thier options: (renterina, o-cab/eckstein) how can you fault the sox for signing him? i loved o-cab but they felt they got more value out of renteria. sure they overpaid, but twhen the market is thin in spots like that, thats what happens.

[sublime]

MLB score flash!!!!!

LAA 4
Sox 7

Ny 3
Min 5

Bal 3
Det 5 Final


ahhahahahahahhahaha

the collection of clowns (now to be known as CoC)
playing awful!! 200 million hahhahahahahahahahah

[Dynasty]

Steinbrenner isn't happy (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2075561)

Updated: June 3, 2005, 9:26 PM ET
Torre: 'George isn't a very patient man'


MINNEAPOLIS -- Looking for answers after a historic sweep at the hands of the worst team in baseball, an upset George Steinbrenner held a conference call Friday with New York Yankees GM Brian Cashman and manager Joe Torre.

Torre said it has become an increasingly rare occurrence in recent seasons for The Boss to include him in such discussions, but this was a rare situation.

"It's happened a number of times, but not in recent times," Torre said Friday before the Yankees opened a three-game series against the Minnesota Twins. "This was sticking to why we're having a tough time. All of the same questions I ask myself.

"He was unhappy. If I tried to tell you anything other than that, you'd be questioning if I was telling you the truth, and I'm not going to lie to you," Torre added.

New York (27-26) has lost five games in a row, including an embarrassing three-game sweep by the lowly Kansas City Royals, just the third time in the Yankees' storied history that they've been swept in three games by a team with the worst record in the majors, according to the Elias Sports Bureau.

Steinbrenner participated on the call from Florida, with Torre and Cashman in Minneapolis.

Torre and Cashman characterized the call as a "state of the team" discussion and said no decisions were made at the conclusion.

"I didn't feel any better because we were talking about all the bad things that have happened," Torre said. "We talked about individuals and my feeling that the pitching is really the key for us. Why we're not hitting is everybody's mystery. It's something you just have to fight your way out of. We didn't solve anything."

Cashman said he holds regular discussions with Steinbrenner about the team but agreed it was rare for Torre to be included.

"It was good for him to hear from Joe," Cashman said. "[Steinbrenner] is no less happy than anyone else here."

Particularly Torre, who held a closed-door meeting Wednesday after the $200 million Yankees dropped their second game in a row to the Royals.

Torre said he takes much of the responsibility for the team's recent struggles and was completely befuddled by the veteran group's seemingly fragile confidence.

"I'm accountable," Torre said. "I'm the manager and I'm in charge. This obviously is something that I need to find an answer for. It's up to me to find a way to make this thing start working again."

The demanding Steinbrenner was obviously upset after watching the team with the highest payroll in baseball get swept by a ragtag group of journeymen and youngsters in Kansas City.

"He's put up a lot of money to put this kind of a ballclub in our dugout," Torre said. "This isn't the results that should be accompanying that."

As soon as he heard about the call, Torre knew it wasn't going to be a pleasant conversation. Torre has gotten used to outbursts from Steinbrenner during his 10 years in New York. When the Yankees are winning, their owner wants them to win bigger; when they are losing, look out.

"It's a long season and George isn't a very patient man and we understand that," Torre said. "In dealing with George, when you lose and you're supposed to be winning, it's not a happy time. But when you win, he's constantly driving you to improve, so the tone doesn't change much."

Torre did say he hoped Steinbrenner, who has a reputation for firing employees in a heartbeat, would exercise a little bit of restraint and keep his staff intact while it tries to right the ship.

"We hope we can continue as far as work-wise," Torre said. "Results-wise, we want to change that."

No timelines were set, no ultimatums issued. Just a stern reminder that the Yankees are held to a higher standard.

"A week ago, we had won 16 of 18 and now we've lost five straight," Cashman said. "Trying to make sense of this tough game of baseball isn't always easy. ... Everyone is doing everything they possibly can to turn things around."

[Voltron87]

hold onto your seatbelts ladies. this is going to get brutal.

[mostsmooth]

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playing awful!! 200 million hahhahahahahahahahah

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wow a payroll jab, how clever

[sublime]

dirrrrrtyyyyy wataaaahhhhhhh

[sublime]

wow a payroll jab, how clever

i was going to pick on some other things, but this is my favorite one.

[Dead]

Speak English. I know it's hard because you're from Boston, but no one wants to hear that Southie trailer accent.

[contentless]

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wow a payroll jab, how clever

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Fine, or we can just tell you straight up: The Yankees are awful.

[mostsmooth]

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wow a payroll jab, how clever

i was going to pick on some other things, but this is my favorite one.

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at least sound intelligent. pointing out a payroll is practically meaningless

[Voltron87]

i keep telling all the red sox fans I know to enojoy this while it lasts, because it will not last and things will return back to the natural order.

[sublime]

*** You are ignoring this user ***

you can say that again

[mostsmooth]

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wow a payroll jab, how clever

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Fine, or we can just tell you straight up: The Yankees are awful.

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thats better

[sublime]

i keep telling all the red sox fans I know to enojoy this while it lasts, because it will not last and things will return back to the natural order.

natural order? ohhh you mean the danny tartabull era....yep, looks like it.

[sublime]

at least sound intelligent. pointing out a payroll is practically meaningless

the difference between the NYY and the rest of baseball is not meaningless. a team with a payroll 2.5x the the league average (or whatever) should not be mediocre. its shows how mismanaged the franchise is.

[Dead]

Wow, Mariano is pitching. Like Kay said, he needs work. But the fact that we are using Mo when we are down 3 runs is pathetic.

[Voltron87]

seriously, how old are you? you act like a 14 year old.

[Dead]

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seriously, how old are you? you act like a 14 year old.

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Sublime is from Boston, and he hit on pokerjo. He was all over that man-ass. That is all I need to know.

[masse75]

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Torre: 'George isn't a very patient man'

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"He's put up a lot of money to put this kind of a ballclub in our dugout," Torre said. "This isn't the results that should be accompanying that."

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Thanks, Joe. Master of the Obvious.

[Voltron87]

have you ever seen a real interview with torre?

[masse75]

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i keep telling all the red sox fans I know to enojoy this while it lasts, because it will not last and things will return back to the natural order.

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So Dead, how was the Kool-Aid in Jonestown?

[Dead]

You're a total idiot.

[masse75]

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have you ever seen a real interview with torre?

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No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

[masse75]

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I'm a total idiot.

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FYP...and that makes 6.

[Dead]

Take Fat Papi's dick out of your mouth and maybe I'll be able to understand you.

[masse75]

Oh, sorry.

I SAID, "THAT MAKES 6, [censored] NUTS."

[sublime]

http://www.dudleychateau.com/Yankee%20Email/jeter%20skirt.gif

me 14yr old?

heheheheheheheheehehe