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EasilyFound
06-02-2005, 11:38 PM
$11 SNG. Ok. Here is a situation that I talked about in an earlier post. I'm uncertain how aggressive someone should be w/the chip lead entering the bubble. I did not do this correctly, so I need help identifying spots to steal and push people around. I hope for others to learn from my mistakes.

Here goes:

***** Hand History for Game 2145891575 *****
SixSigma6 finished in fifth place.
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12760256) - Thu Jun 02 23:08:02 EDT 2005
Table Table 18342 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: TM9443 (2365)
Seat 5: jlew943 (990)
Seat 7: EasilyFound (3360)
Seat 8: meganed (1285)
jlew943 posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ Ac, Qh ]
EasilyFound raises (400) to 400
meganed folds.
TM9443 folds.
jlew943 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 500
TM9443 balance 2365, didn't bet (folded)
jlew943 balance 890, lost 100 (folded)
EasilyFound balance 3460, bet 400, collected 500, net +100
meganed balance 1285, didn't bet (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 2145894683 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12760256) - Thu Jun 02 23:08:31 EDT 2005
Table Table 18342 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: TM9443 (2365)
Seat 5: jlew943 (890)
Seat 7: EasilyFound (3460)
Seat 8: meganed (1285)
EasilyFound posts small blind (50)
meganed posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ Kh, 4s ]
TM9443 raises (200) to 200
jlew943 folds.
EasilyFound folds.
meganed folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 350
TM9443 balance 2515, bet 200, collected 350, net +150
jlew943 balance 890, didn't bet (folded)
EasilyFound balance 3410, lost 50 (folded)
meganed balance 1185, lost 100 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 2145896241 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12760256) - Thu Jun 02 23:08:47 EDT 2005
Table Table 18342 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: TM9443 (2515)
Seat 5: jlew943 (890)
Seat 7: EasilyFound (3410)
Seat 8: meganed (1185)
meganed posts small blind (50)
TM9443 posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ 6c, 3s ]
jlew943 folds.
EasilyFound folds.
meganed folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 150
TM9443 balance 2565, bet 100, collected 150, net +50
jlew943 balance 890, didn't bet (folded)
EasilyFound balance 3410, didn't bet (folded)
meganed balance 1135, lost 50 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 2145897419 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12760256) - Thu Jun 02 23:08:58 EDT 2005
Table Table 18342 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: TM9443 (2565)
Seat 5: jlew943 (890)
Seat 7: EasilyFound (3410)
Seat 8: meganed (1135)
TM9443 posts small blind (50)
jlew943 posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ Kd, 7d ]
EasilyFound folds.
meganed folds.
TM9443 calls (50)
jlew943 raises (350) to 450
TM9443 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 550
TM9443 balance 2465, lost 100 (folded)
jlew943 balance 990, bet 450, collected 550, net +100
EasilyFound balance 3410, didn't bet (folded)
meganed balance 1135, didn't bet (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 2145899812 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12760256) - Thu Jun 02 23:09:21 EDT 2005
Table Table 18342 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: TM9443 (2465)
Seat 5: jlew943 (990)
Seat 7: EasilyFound (3410)
Seat 8: meganed (1135)
jlew943 posts small blind (50)
EasilyFound posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ 7s, 4s ]
meganed folds.
TM9443 folds.
jlew943 calls (50)
EasilyFound checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8s, 8c, Ac ]
jlew943 checks.
EasilyFound bets (150)
jlew943 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 350
Board: [ 8s 8c Ac ]
TM9443 balance 2465, didn't bet (folded)
jlew943 balance 890, lost 100 (folded)
EasilyFound balance 3510, bet 250, collected 350, net +100
meganed balance 1135, didn't bet (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 2145902953 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12760256) - Thu Jun 02 23:09:51 EDT 2005
Table Table 18342 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: TM9443 (2465)
Seat 5: jlew943 (890)
Seat 7: EasilyFound (3510)
Seat 8: meganed (1135)
EasilyFound posts small blind (50)
meganed posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ 8s, Tc ]
TM9443 folds.
jlew943 folds.
EasilyFound raises (375) to 425
meganed raises (1035) to 1135
meganed is all-In.
EasilyFound folds.
Creating Main Pot with $1560 with meganed
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1560
TM9443 balance 2465, didn't bet (folded)
jlew943 balance 890, didn't bet (folded)
EasilyFound balance 3085, lost 425 (folded)
meganed balance 1560, bet 1135, collected 1560, net +425

***** Hand History for Game 2145905590 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12760256) - Thu Jun 02 23:10:16 EDT 2005
Table Table 18342 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: TM9443 (2465)
Seat 5: jlew943 (890)
Seat 7: EasilyFound (3085)
Seat 8: meganed (1560)
meganed posts small blind (100)
TM9443 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ Qs, 3h ]
jlew943 folds.
EasilyFound folds.
meganed raises (600) to 700
TM9443 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 900
TM9443 balance 2265, lost 200 (folded)
jlew943 balance 890, didn't bet (folded)
EasilyFound balance 3085, didn't bet (folded)
meganed balance 1760, bet 700, collected 900, net +200

***** Hand History for Game 2145908508 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12760256) - Thu Jun 02 23:10:44 EDT 2005
Table Table 18342 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: TM9443 (2265)
Seat 5: jlew943 (890)
Seat 7: EasilyFound (3085)
Seat 8: meganed (1760)
TM9443 posts small blind (100)
jlew943 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ 5c, 6d ]
EasilyFound folds.
meganed folds.
TM9443 raises (300) to 400
jlew943 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 600
TM9443 balance 2465, bet 400, collected 600, net +200
jlew943 balance 690, lost 200 (folded)
EasilyFound balance 3085, didn't bet (folded)
meganed balance 1760, didn't bet (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 2145910255 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12760256) - Thu Jun 02 23:11:01 EDT 2005
Table Table 18342 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: TM9443 (2465)
Seat 5: jlew943 (690)
Seat 7: EasilyFound (3085)
Seat 8: meganed (1760)
jlew943 posts small blind (100)
EasilyFound posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ 4s, 6s ]
meganed folds.
TM9443 raises (600) to 600
jlew943 folds.
EasilyFound folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 900
TM9443 balance 2765, bet 600, collected 900, net +300
jlew943 balance 590, lost 100 (folded)
EasilyFound balance 2885, lost 200 (folded)
meganed balance 1760, didn't bet (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 2145912891 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12760256) - Thu Jun 02 23:11:26 EDT 2005
Table Table 18342 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: TM9443 (2765)
Seat 5: jlew943 (590)
Seat 7: EasilyFound (2885)
Seat 8: meganed (1760)
EasilyFound posts small blind (100)
meganed posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ Js, 5c ]
TM9443 folds.
jlew943 raises (590) to 590
jlew943 is all-In.
EasilyFound folds.
meganed folds.
Creating Main Pot with $890 with jlew943
** Summary **
Main Pot: 890
TM9443 balance 2765, didn't bet (folded)
jlew943 balance 890, bet 590, collected 890, net +300
EasilyFound balance 2785, lost 100 (folded)
meganed balance 1560, lost 200 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 2145915633 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12760256) - Thu Jun 02 23:11:52 EDT 2005
Table Table 18342 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: TM9443 (2765)
Seat 5: jlew943 (890)
Seat 7: EasilyFound (2785)
Seat 8: meganed (1560)
meganed posts small blind (100)
TM9443 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ As, Jh ]
jlew943 folds.
EasilyFound raises (2785) to 2785
EasilyFound is all-In.
meganed folds.
TM9443 folds.
Creating Main Pot with $3085 with EasilyFound
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3085
TM9443 balance 2565, lost 200 (folded)
jlew943 balance 890, didn't bet (folded)
EasilyFound balance 3085, bet 2785, collected 3085, net +300
meganed balance 1460, lost 100 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 2145917864 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12760256) - Thu Jun 02 23:12:14 EDT 2005
Table Table 18342 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: TM9443 (2565)
Seat 5: jlew943 (890)
Seat 7: EasilyFound (3085)
Seat 8: meganed (1460)
TM9443 posts small blind (100)
jlew943 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ 4h, 4d ]
EasilyFound folds.
meganed folds.
TM9443 calls (100)
jlew943 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jc, Qh, 8h ]
TM9443 checks.
jlew943 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8c ]
TM9443 bets (400)
jlew943 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 800
Board: [ Jc Qh 8h 8c ]
TM9443 balance 2765, bet 600, collected 800, net +200
jlew943 balance 690, lost 200 (folded)
EasilyFound balance 3085, didn't bet (folded)
meganed balance 1460, didn't bet (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 2145921738 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12760256) - Thu Jun 02 23:12:51 EDT 2005
Table Table 18342 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: TM9443 (2765)
Seat 5: jlew943 (690)
Seat 7: EasilyFound (3085)
Seat 8: meganed (1460)
jlew943 posts small blind (100)
EasilyFound posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ 9d, 9s ]
meganed raises (1460) to 1460
meganed is all-In.
TM9443 folds.
jlew943 folds.
EasilyFound calls (1260)
Creating Main Pot with $3020 with meganed
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6d, As, 3s ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Kd ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Qh ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3020 |
Board: [ 6d As 3s Kd Qh ]
TM9443 balance 2765, didn't bet (folded)
jlew943 balance 590, lost 100 (folded)
EasilyFound balance 1625, lost 1460 [ 9d 9s ] [ a pair of nines -- As,Kd,Qh,9d,9s ]
meganed balance 3020, bet 1460, collected 3020, net +1560 [ Kh Qc ] [ two pairs, kings and queens -- As,Kh,Kd,Qc,Qh ]

***** Hand History for Game 2145924596 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12760256) - Thu Jun 02 23:13:18 EDT 2005
Table Table 18342 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: TM9443 (2765)
Seat 5: jlew943 (590)
Seat 7: EasilyFound (1625)
Seat 8: meganed (3020)
EasilyFound posts small blind (100)
meganed posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ Qs, 9d ]
TM9443 folds.
jlew943 raises (590) to 590
jlew943 is all-In.
EasilyFound folds.
meganed folds.
Creating Main Pot with $890 with jlew943
** Summary **
Main Pot: 890
TM9443 balance 2765, didn't bet (folded)
jlew943 balance 890, bet 590, collected 890, net +300
EasilyFound balance 1525, lost 100 (folded)
meganed balance 2820, lost 200 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 2145927722 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12760256) - Thu Jun 02 23:13:49 EDT 2005
Table Table 18342 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: TM9443 (2765)
Seat 5: jlew943 (890)
Seat 7: EasilyFound (1525)
Seat 8: meganed (2820)
meganed posts small blind (100)
TM9443 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ 9d, Kc ]
jlew943 folds.
EasilyFound folds.
meganed folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 300
TM9443 balance 2865, bet 200, collected 300, net +100
jlew943 balance 890, didn't bet (folded)
EasilyFound balance 1525, didn't bet (folded)
meganed balance 2720, lost 100 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 2145929986 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12760256) - Thu Jun 02 23:14:11 EDT 2005
Table Table 18342 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: TM9443 (2865)
Seat 5: jlew943 (890)
Seat 7: EasilyFound (1525)
Seat 8: meganed (2720)
TM9443 posts small blind (100)
jlew943 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ Ad, 8h ]
EasilyFound raises (1525) to 1525
EasilyFound is all-In.
meganed folds.
TM9443 calls (1425)
jlew943 calls (690)
jlew943 is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $2670 with jlew943
Creating Side Pot 1 with $1270 with EasilyFound
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7d, Jd, 6c ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 3d ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 6d ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2670 | Side Pot 1: 1270 |
Board: [ 7d Jd 6c 3d 6d ]
TM9443 balance 1340, lost 1525 [ As Kc ] [ a pair of sixes -- As,Kc,Jd,6c,6d ]
jlew943 balance 0, lost 890 [ Ah Ts ] [ a pair of sixes -- Ah,Jd,Ts,6c,6d ]
EasilyFound balance 3940, bet 1525, collected 3940, net +2415 [ Ad 8h ] [ a flush, ace high -- Ad,Jd,7d,6d,3d ]
meganed balance 2720, didn't bet (folded)

MissOt
06-03-2005, 02:53 AM
whats with all the varied raises just raise to 3x. no need for more than that on a steal. they arent going over the top with junk they just got a hand. they arent folding at because you went 4x. you just waste money the time they get a hand



push pf. no limping allowed especially with your stack especially with his stack!
***** Hand History for Game 2145899812 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12760256) - Thu Jun 02 23:09:21 EDT 2005
Table Table 18342 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: TM9443 (2465)
Seat 5: jlew943 (990)
Seat 7: EasilyFound (3410)
Seat 8: meganed (1135)
jlew943 posts small blind (50)
EasilyFound posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ 7s, 4s ]
meganed folds.
TM9443 folds.
jlew943 calls (50)
EasilyFound checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8s, 8c, Ac ]
jlew943 checks.
EasilyFound bets (150)
jlew943 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 350
Board: [ 8s 8c Ac ]
TM9443 balance 2465, didn't bet (folded)
jlew943 balance 890, lost 100 (folded)
EasilyFound balance 3510, bet 250, collected 350, net +100
meganed balance 1135, didn't bet (folded)

eh i dno about this... the other big stack is on BB. thats really all you have to worry about. i might go 600 here and will fold if CL pushes. i dno hes only calling with better when you push and i doubt he will make a play here with nothing. might also get a call from the short stack. i dno can any1 else comment? i think its close, but i probably go 600
***** Hand History for Game 2145915633 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12760256) - Thu Jun 02 23:11:52 EDT 2005
Table Table 18342 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: TM9443 (2765)
Seat 5: jlew943 (890)
Seat 7: EasilyFound (2785)
Seat 8: meganed (1560)
meganed posts small blind (100)
TM9443 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ As, Jh ]
jlew943 folds.
EasilyFound raises (2785) to 2785
EasilyFound is all-In.
meganed folds.
TM9443 folds.
Creating Main Pot with $3085 with EasilyFound
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3085
TM9443 balance 2565, lost 200 (folded)
jlew943 balance 890, didn't bet (folded)
EasilyFound balance 3085, bet 2785, collected 3085, net +300
meganed balance 1460, lost 100 (folded)
raise this cmonnnnnn 3x it
***** Hand History for Game 2145917864 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12760256) - Thu Jun 02 23:12:14 EDT 2005
Table Table 18342 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: TM9443 (2565)
Seat 5: jlew943 (890)
Seat 7: EasilyFound (3085)
Seat 8: meganed (1460)
TM9443 posts small blind (100)
jlew943 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ 4h, 4d ]
EasilyFound folds.
meganed folds.
TM9443 calls (100)
jlew943 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jc, Qh, 8h ]
TM9443 checks.
jlew943 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8c ]
TM9443 bets (400)
jlew943 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 800
Board: [ Jc Qh 8h 8c ]
TM9443 balance 2765, bet 600, collected 800, net +200
jlew943 balance 690, lost 200 (folded)
EasilyFound balance 3085, didn't bet (folded)
meganed balance 1460, didn't bet (folded)

thats fine im not folding 99 there. they only have 1 ocercard most of the time
***** Hand History for Game 2145921738 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12760256) - Thu Jun 02 23:12:51 EDT 2005
Table Table 18342 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: TM9443 (2765)
Seat 5: jlew943 (690)
Seat 7: EasilyFound (3085)
Seat 8: meganed (1460)
jlew943 posts small blind (100)
EasilyFound posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ 9d, 9s ]
meganed raises (1460) to 1460
meganed is all-In.
TM9443 folds.
jlew943 folds.
EasilyFound calls (1260)
Creating Main Pot with $3020 with meganed
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6d, As, 3s ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Kd ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Qh ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3020 |
Board: [ 6d As 3s Kd Qh ]
TM9443 balance 2765, didn't bet (folded)
jlew943 balance 590, lost 100 (folded)
EasilyFound balance 1625, lost 1460 [ 9d 9s ] [ a pair of nines -- As,Kd,Qh,9d,9s ]
meganed balance 3020, bet 1460, collected 3020, net +1560 [ Kh Qc ] [ two pairs, kings and queens -- As,Kh,Kd,Qc,Qh ]


easy push
***** Hand History for Game 2145927722 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12760256) - Thu Jun 02 23:13:49 EDT 2005
Table Table 18342 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: TM9443 (2765)
Seat 5: jlew943 (890)
Seat 7: EasilyFound (1525)
Seat 8: meganed (2820)
meganed posts small blind (100)
TM9443 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ 9d, Kc ]
jlew943 folds.
EasilyFound folds.
meganed folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 300
TM9443 balance 2865, bet 200, collected 300, net +100
jlew943 balance 890, didn't bet (folded)
EasilyFound balance 1525, didn't bet (folded)
meganed balance 2720, lost 100 (folded)


nice lol gotta push. dno how that guy overcalls with AT on the bubble yikes
***** Hand History for Game 2145929986 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12760256) - Thu Jun 02 23:14:11 EDT 2005
Table Table 18342 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: TM9443 (2865)
Seat 5: jlew943 (890)
Seat 7: EasilyFound (1525)
Seat 8: meganed (2720)
TM9443 posts small blind (100)
jlew943 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ Ad, 8h ]
EasilyFound raises (1525) to 1525
EasilyFound is all-In.
meganed folds.
TM9443 calls (1425)
jlew943 calls (690)
jlew943 is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $2670 with jlew943
Creating Side Pot 1 with $1270 with EasilyFound
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7d, Jd, 6c ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 3d ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 6d ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2670 | Side Pot 1: 1270 |
Board: [ 7d Jd 6c 3d 6d ]
TM9443 balance 1340, lost 1525 [ As Kc ] [ a pair of sixes -- As,Kc,Jd,6c,6d ]
jlew943 balance 0, lost 890 [ Ah Ts ] [ a pair of sixes -- Ah,Jd,Ts,6c,6d ]
EasilyFound balance 3940, bet 1525, collected 3940, net +2415 [ Ad 8h ] [ a flush, ace high -- Ad,Jd,7d,6d,3d ]
meganed balance 2720, didn't bet (folded)

EasilyFound
06-03-2005, 06:57 AM
Thanks. Anyone else want to take a shot? Do other people agree or disagree with the advice to raise 3xbb instead of pushing it all? Does that protect me from times when the 2nd stack, especially early in the HH when the chip stacks were close, wakes up with a monster?

pergesu
06-03-2005, 07:07 AM
Honestly, you don't gotta be stealing a lot at this point. You've got a really big stack, so you're set. For example, the T8o SB hand where you raise. Just pass on it. You don't need the pot at all, and you save some FE for later levels. Then when BB pushes you're folding? You're getting 2-1 on what are almost surely live cards, and even if you double the guy up, you're still in strong contention.

I didn't watch all of it (couple multis just started up), but that's my initial reaction. One of the things I learned here that helped my game the most was PVS saying that he just tries to get to level 5 with 1200 chips. When I first started playing, I'd be trying to steal a lot of blinds in levels 3 and 4, but lose a ton of FE in later rounds. Once I read that and tried to apply it to my game, I started doing a lot better.

The point of stealing, as I understand it, is to force your opponent to make a decision for his stack. When you make a standard raise, you allow him to play back at you, which is what you don't want. I only suggest stealing when either you or your opponent has fewer than 10 BB remaining. If you do this, you'll pass on a number of earlier steals, which preserves FE, but also allows you to steal when the chips make a significant difference to your and/or your opponent's stack.


edit: Thread with PVS's "Get ready for level 5" advice (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=singletable&Number=2319689 &page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=14&fpart=1)

EasilyFound
06-03-2005, 07:19 AM
Thanks very much. I'll check out the PVS Level 5 thread.

NYCNative
06-03-2005, 07:21 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Dealt to EasilyFound [ 8s, Tc ]
TM9443 folds.
jlew943 folds.
EasilyFound raises (375) to 425
meganed raises (1035) to 1135
meganed is all-In.
EasilyFound folds.

[/ QUOTE ]Bet less for steals.[ QUOTE ]
Dealt to EasilyFound [ 4s, 6s ]
meganed folds.
TM9443 raises (600) to 600
jlew943 folds.
EasilyFound folds.

[/ QUOTE ]I might have taken a flop with this one. Sometimes cuited connectors hit and even if this one doesn't, you give the message that you will defend your blinds. That said, I will probably be yelld at for this line of thinking.[ QUOTE ]
Dealt to EasilyFound [ As, Jh ]
jlew943 folds.
EasilyFound raises (2785) to 2785

[/ QUOTE ]I make my standard steal raise here.[ QUOTE ]
Dealt to EasilyFound [ 4h, 4d ]
EasilyFound folds.

[/ QUOTE ]Huh? I would have raised here.[ QUOTE ]
Dealt to EasilyFound [ 9d, 9s ]
meganed raises (1460) to 1460
meganed is all-In.
TM9443 folds.
jlew943 folds.
EasilyFound calls (1260)

[/ QUOTE ]I make that call too.[ QUOTE ]
Dealt to EasilyFound [ Qs, 9d ]
TM9443 folds.
jlew943 raises (590) to 590
jlew943 is all-In.
EasilyFound folds.
meganed folds.

[/ QUOTE ]Did you fold because of the player behind you? I probably call this if I'm last to act but I can see folding it scared of the player behind you.[ QUOTE ]
Dealt to EasilyFound [ 9d, Kc ]
jlew943 folds.
EasilyFound folds.

[/ QUOTE ]I try and steal with this one.[ QUOTE ]
Dealt to EasilyFound [ Ad, 8h ]
EasilyFound raises (1525) to 1525
EasilyFound is all-In.
meganed folds.
TM9443 calls (1425)
jlew943 calls (690)
jlew943 is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $2670 with jlew943
Creating Side Pot 1 with $1270 with EasilyFound
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7d, Jd, 6c ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 3d ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 6d ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2670 | Side Pot 1: 1270 |
Board: [ 7d Jd 6c 3d 6d ]
TM9443 balance 1340, lost 1525 [ As Kc ] [ a pair of sixes -- As,Kc,Jd,6c,6d ]
jlew943 balance 0, lost 890 [ Ah Ts ] [ a pair of sixes -- Ah,Jd,Ts,6c,6d ]
EasilyFound balance 3940, bet 1525, collected 3940, net +2415 [ Ad 8h ] [ a flush, ace high -- Ad,Jd,7d,6d,3d ]

[/ QUOTE ]Lucky you! /images/graemlins/smile.gif I don't blame you for pushing. It was strange to run into two better Aces however you had to be thankful that jlew943 made such a bone-headed play. He was short, he could have stayed out of things but then he calls with a relatively marginal hand with all that action in front of him when you being taken out would have meant him limping into the money. You must have been thrilled to see him come in though - if both of you busted you would have placed third.

Phil Van Sexton
06-03-2005, 10:16 AM
The raise to 400 with AQ was fine because you were going to call a push anyway. I probably just make my standard raise to 300.

The raise to 425 with T8 was bad, and you should've called the push getting 2:1 (which is why the original bet was bad). I will typically fold here as a gesture of good will. I do not plan on being this generous on levels 5+ (this was the last hand of level 4).

Pushing AJ, calling 99, pushing A8....all standard.

You could argue for pushing the Q9 to isolate against the shortstack with good pot odds, but I think your stack is a bit too short. I would've folded too. Calling is horrible. With 2000+, it's definately a push though.

I probably push 44 with the shortstack in BB.

I definately push the K9 from SB.

All in all, not too bad.