Do I know what I'm talking about?

[The_Bends]

Right, I've just started analysing my own hands by looking at the pot odds/EV of situations in my PT database. However I'd like to know if I'm doing it right.

Flop

Q /images/graemlins/heart.gif 6 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

Player 1 - 8 /images/graemlins/club.gif 9 /images/graemlins/club.gif

Player 2 - Q /images/graemlins/club.gif A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

Preflop, 4 callers (inc blinds) Pot is $4

Flop P1 bets $3, P2 raises $3 to $6, P1 reraises $9 to $15 (all-in)

OK I'm trying to work out the EV of the $9 reraise if there is no fold equity and P2 holds exactly Ad Qc

So PF pot = $4

Flop pot (before RR) = $12 (3+6+3)

Total pot = $16

Two dimes
9c 8c 321 32.42
Qc Ad 669 67.58

Wins
16*32.42= 518.72

Loss

9*67.58= 608.22

Wins-Losses = -89.5

-89.5/100 = $-0.90

So the RR loses 90 cents each time, correct?

[AaronBrown]

I followed things down to the Wins and Losses.

If P1 calls instead of reraising, there's $16 in the pot. He expects to get $5.19 of that if the cards are dealt to showdown.

If he reraises, one of two things can happen. P2 can fold, in which case P1 collects the entire $16, $10.81 of which is profit from the reraise. If P2 calls, there is now $34 in the pot, of which $11.02 is P1's expected value. But he had to pay $9 to get that, so his net expected value is $2.02, $3.17 less than his expected value from calling.

This ignores any possible betting after the turn or river if he calls. With that assumption, I would say the reraise costs him $3.17 if he is called, but gains him $10.81 if he induces P2 to fold.

[OrangeKing]

Keep in mind that P1 is actually putting $12 into this point, not $9 (he only had $3 in on this round at the moment he raised). If he can assume that P2 will always call, he is looking to win $22 (the $4 preflop, the $3 he put in previously on the flop, and the whole $15 from P2).

With that in mind, I get the following caclulation for the value of the $12 all-in raise:

Wins
22*32.42= 713.24

Loss

12*67.58= 810.96

Wins-Losses = -97.72

-97.72/100 = $-0.98

[The_Bends]

Ah I get it now.