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xenthebrain
06-02-2005, 02:15 PM
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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif. CO posts a blind of $0.5. UTG+1 posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG calls, UTG+1 (poster) checks, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (17 BB) A/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds.

River: (24 BB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB folds.

Final Pot: 26 BB

MHIG

Nick Royale
06-02-2005, 02:35 PM
Take the free showdown.

MrWookie47
06-02-2005, 02:37 PM
I wish you wouldn't have told me that YHIG. I would have told you that raising the turn when UTG+2 wakes up on an overcard to your PP is maniacal when you supplied no read.

Edit: Also, as Nick said, take the free SD.

iNsChris
06-02-2005, 02:39 PM
*grunching*
Strange,

Preflop: Fine
flop:I call the 3bet(hes 3betting a straight? set?)
Turn: Odd, He bets you raise he folds - I call the raise dont 3bet.
River: Check/call if bet into, Bet if they dont. Fine.

Thanks what i do,

The Flop raise makes me thinks Set/Straight(maybe draw from Agg player)

Turn: Ace, ANyone holding one beats you - Utg bets into you so im calling.

River fine, Wonder if you won from this?

Edit: Didnt see "MHIG" you dont post this - Anyhow unedited post remains same:) i dont raise a better with an overcard turns.

moot
06-02-2005, 02:43 PM
Preflop: good

Flop: BBs limp raise is very confusing. I still probably cap this though I might simply call.

Turn: Not sure here. UTG+2's bet is a little scary and the pot is so big I'm not sure what we're protecting against at this point (by raising). I might simply call (showdown mode). Though I can respect the raise too. This pot is huge and we can't let a strange bet freeze us up (because if he's not betting an ace then there are A TON of hands we'd probably like to see fold).

River: I am BETTING this. You have to consider who is still in. I think I've been ahead of these two (SB and BB) from the start and I think I probably still am. BET.


Overall I think your line is pretty good.

atnels
06-02-2005, 03:02 PM
Weird turn action. I started typing this thinking I didn't like the turn raise, but UTG+2's bet is just so odd. SB bet out the flop, but then called every time action was back to him. BB's call/reraise suggests flush draw if he's a decent player.

When SB and BB both just call the turn action and UTG+2 folds, I like the river bet. The T didn't help either of them, and I somehow get the impression SB was overplaying a 6 or mid pocket pair.

Bodhi
06-02-2005, 03:28 PM
Next time don't tell me the results.

Nice hand. I don't think you could play it any better.

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Ok, now I read everyone else's comments.

I think it's absolutely necessary that your raise the turn. You must raise to increase your winning chances. So what if utg+2 made a strange bet when the A fell. People do that sometimes as a bluff to see how you'll react. Anyone who didn't raise this turn has a huge leak.

Also, I like your river value bet.

Bodhi
06-02-2005, 03:32 PM
I think it's absolutely necessary that we raise the turn. We must raise to increase your winning chances. So what if utg+2 made a strange bet when the A fell. People do that sometimes as a bluff to see how you'll react. Anyone who didn't raise this turn has a huge leak.

iNsChris
06-02-2005, 03:35 PM
I have a leak /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Probably causes by seeing 0.05/.10 micro players calling preflop with Ax, JJ losing numerous times, UTG waking up when A Turns.

See results i guess, But i think were behind.

PuckNPoker
06-02-2005, 03:36 PM
I like the river value bet once UTG+2 folded to your raise. But raising the turn, Man I dont know... although with the pot so large.. that is a tough one.

Wish you didnt post results so I had a more honest reaction to this lol.

AmarilloJim1
06-02-2005, 03:49 PM
IMO, I would just call the 3-Bet flop.

Bodhi
06-02-2005, 03:56 PM
So what if lose an extra bet in this huge pot. Raise the turn; put the money in and hope for the best.

Fantam
06-02-2005, 04:04 PM
I think this looks like an interesting hand and a big pot which you won on the river. However without any reads on any of the players I find it difficult to interpret some of the bets.

For example when the BB 3-bet the flop, that suggested to me that he might have had 2 pair or a set, and would have encouraged me to call down the rest of the hand. However from the way the hand played out, I can see that he was probably pumping a draw.

I also found it a bit scary, when UTG+2 woke up on the turn with a bet when the A fell. I imagine you raised to try to find out whether you were ahead or behind and that this gained you some extra bets from the drawing hands. Am I correct that you would have either folded or called down to a 3-bet from UTG+2?

PF and river play looked straightforward.

By the way I saw your post in the high stakes section, and I was wondering if you had had any success in encouraging your friend to read SSH? /images/graemlins/grin.gif

xenthebrain
06-02-2005, 04:30 PM
My thought after this hand was, that the river is maybe a little more questionable than the turn or flop.

I was pretty sure that BB was on a flushdraw and that he raised for value because he trapped so many players. So I capped.

The turn was imo a fold or raise situation.
If I thought I was behind I would have had to fold, since I wouldn't get the odds to draw to a one outer.
Since the pot was huge I raised to maximise my chances of winning.
At that point I had Ed Miller in my head, telling me that a huge pot is not the right place to "save bets".
I was a little worried about everyone cold-calling, but I figured that someone with a set would raise me and put me on a high PP or AKs or stuff.
I was really glad to see the turn bettor fold.

I was not sure about my riverbet. I didn't really think that someone with a worse hand would call me (e.g. a busted flushdraw) but I thought that they would call me just to see my hand or with any pair.
I would not have folded to river raise. I would have made the crying call.