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tjh
06-02-2005, 02:06 AM
Advice on all streets needed. Not winning much lately, might be my play.

This is actually the first table of a two table Pokerstars 11. More or less a STT, just a TwoTT. I know the Flop and turn bets could have been just as effective or not effective for about .7 of the size that I bet. I was just lazy with the slider and overbet a bit.

Thanks.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Button (t1500)
SB (t1200)
BB (t1410)
UTG (t1440)
UTG+1 (t1050)
Hero (t1610)
MP2 (t3620)
CO (t1670)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t20, Hero calls t20, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls t20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (t90) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t160</font>, Button calls t160, BB folds, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (t430) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t420</font>, Button calls t420.

River: (t1270) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t900 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t2170

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Button doesn't show.
Outcome: Button wins t2170. </font>

lastchance
06-02-2005, 02:12 AM
NO WAY IN HELL. ANYONE WHO FOLDS THIS SHOULD BE SMITED BY POKER GODS. CALL, 100% OF THE TIME. YOU WILL BE AHEAD.

tjh
06-02-2005, 02:23 AM
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NO WAY IN HELL. ANYONE WHO FOLDS THIS SHOULD BE SMITED BY POKER GODS. CALL, 100% OF THE TIME. YOU WILL BE AHEAD.

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What is your reasoning? If I had the straight I would have played it exactly how he did. No need to bet till the river since I was betting. Are you giving a $10 player enough credit to bluff at the river. He is risking his whole stack. I give the fish credit for a hand when they do that. And the only hand that looks reasonable is the straight.

When they go all in on later streets I believe them. Is this a leak ?

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tjh

thesharpie
06-02-2005, 02:30 AM
67 could be played like this if he's an idiot. So could 22 or 33. So could 43 or 54. So could some other random holding some idiot could be playing.

I call.

pergesu
06-02-2005, 02:33 AM
I think he's more likely to have played an overpair in a retarded fashion than to have a straight.

NYCNative
06-02-2005, 07:59 AM
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I think he's more likely to have played an overpair in a retarded fashion than to have a straight.

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tigerite
06-02-2005, 08:01 AM
You've also put 600 into this pot and now fold for only 900 more, when you have the best hand more than enough % of the time to make a call mandatory here.