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06-01-2005, 02:40 PM
As alluded to in my other topic:
I was sitting at a table the other night with a woman who I'd normally call a maniac. Thing was that she was indeed a better player than most of the people at the table, which certainly wasn't saying much.
There were about five people at the table who called/raised with virtually any junk preflop, and consequently, were refilling every other orbit or so. There was a ton of money coming out of pockets and being put on the table.
Most of it was going to this one woman who, as I said, I would have pegged as a maniac. Except she was winning, and it seemed like it might be a little more than luck.
The other half of the table (including her) were grousing about how they couldn't get enough interest for a higher stakes ($15/30 or better) game or mixed game, so I assume they were just slumming at the cheaper seats.
And, I coulda swore that I heard one person say that this woman/maniac was a pro. I doubted that, given the low limits ($5/10) but after I heard them talking about getting something higher priced going, I re-evaluated my position.
One thing about her play was it was aggressive as all hell. She was pulling down a lot of pots from that alone. Ok, that part I understand.
But she was also playing looser than crap. Calling just about every pot with anything, raising with hands that I'd probably fold online. I thought maybe she had some strange hand selection, but I did catch her complain to me at one point that just about every hand she dealt had an 8 in it. Most of the other players seemed puzzled as to why this was a bad thing, so maybe she knew her crap.
What she showed down was, more often than not, not the second nuts, third nuts, or even fifth nuts. It was trash that just happened to be better trash than what the others were playing.
Ok, so I figured she had a really good read on everyone else. So, I figured the first time I participated in a hand (which wasn't very often, since I hadn't seen an A or other wheel card most of the short session), she'd fold up immediately, spotting me for a weak-tight rock.
But she didn't. Even when I showed her down with a crap hand that beat her crap hand, she didn't slow down a bit, and looked honestly surprised that I tabled a better hand than hers.
Ok, maybe she figured me for a rock who'd never go to showdown with such marginal holdings, but then again, if she figured me for that, why was she chasing me?
It would be easy to dismiss her as a lucky maniac, but being new to Omaha, I have to consider the possibility that she had some strategy that I'm not otherwise familiar with.
Any suggestions?
I was sitting at a table the other night with a woman who I'd normally call a maniac. Thing was that she was indeed a better player than most of the people at the table, which certainly wasn't saying much.
There were about five people at the table who called/raised with virtually any junk preflop, and consequently, were refilling every other orbit or so. There was a ton of money coming out of pockets and being put on the table.
Most of it was going to this one woman who, as I said, I would have pegged as a maniac. Except she was winning, and it seemed like it might be a little more than luck.
The other half of the table (including her) were grousing about how they couldn't get enough interest for a higher stakes ($15/30 or better) game or mixed game, so I assume they were just slumming at the cheaper seats.
And, I coulda swore that I heard one person say that this woman/maniac was a pro. I doubted that, given the low limits ($5/10) but after I heard them talking about getting something higher priced going, I re-evaluated my position.
One thing about her play was it was aggressive as all hell. She was pulling down a lot of pots from that alone. Ok, that part I understand.
But she was also playing looser than crap. Calling just about every pot with anything, raising with hands that I'd probably fold online. I thought maybe she had some strange hand selection, but I did catch her complain to me at one point that just about every hand she dealt had an 8 in it. Most of the other players seemed puzzled as to why this was a bad thing, so maybe she knew her crap.
What she showed down was, more often than not, not the second nuts, third nuts, or even fifth nuts. It was trash that just happened to be better trash than what the others were playing.
Ok, so I figured she had a really good read on everyone else. So, I figured the first time I participated in a hand (which wasn't very often, since I hadn't seen an A or other wheel card most of the short session), she'd fold up immediately, spotting me for a weak-tight rock.
But she didn't. Even when I showed her down with a crap hand that beat her crap hand, she didn't slow down a bit, and looked honestly surprised that I tabled a better hand than hers.
Ok, maybe she figured me for a rock who'd never go to showdown with such marginal holdings, but then again, if she figured me for that, why was she chasing me?
It would be easy to dismiss her as a lucky maniac, but being new to Omaha, I have to consider the possibility that she had some strategy that I'm not otherwise familiar with.
Any suggestions?