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Meatmaw
06-01-2005, 02:03 PM
Treating this as an all-in from UTG, I get a call range of (55+,AT+,KQs (10%)) from a push range of (44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+), but the BB hits me in 3 hands and I'm not sure what other factors compel me, in this crippled state, to push. I'm surely going to be at least headsup whenever I enter the pot, so do I push here?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (7 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Button (t1350)
SB (t1275)
BB (t2770)
UTG (t1280)
MP1 (t1475)
Hero (t450)
CO (t1400)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls t200, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero...

bluefeet
06-01-2005, 02:10 PM
I agree with you. You only really have 2 more hands to see before you will likely be multi-way pushing from a blind position. Your FE is squat, and even though you'll probably get called......don't know that you have much choice. Push this one &amp; pray.

Newt_Buggs
06-01-2005, 02:25 PM
If you win your stack will be 1200, making this a push

ps- UTG is a donk

Bigwig
06-01-2005, 02:31 PM
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ps- UTG is a donk

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I think that the extra 200 limp means you take your chances here, and hope to isolate the limper heads up. The pot odds are ginormous. I think there's even a chance that you might be ahead, if 'donk' limped with KQ or KT, which I think is very possible.

Meatmaw
06-01-2005, 02:45 PM
What's the origin of this 'donk'? I've read 2+2 constantly and dunno where it came from. I just know I've heard "donkeys always draw" here or there. Is this a recent quote from some pro? Please enlighten.

Bigwig
06-01-2005, 02:55 PM
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What's the origin of this 'donk'? I've read 2+2 constantly and dunno where it came from. I just know I've heard "donkeys always draw" here or there. Is this a recent quote from some pro? Please enlighten.

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I'm curious, too. I think it's just short for donkey. Heh.

Amid Cent
06-01-2005, 02:58 PM
What a Jopke. Donkeys always draw.

Paul Phillips (http://extempore.livejournal.com/90537.html)

Meatmaw
06-01-2005, 03:02 PM
I was aware of that triple draw quote but did that line really originate from Hellmuth during that transcript? Wow, the power of that man.

I saw him at E3 signing at Yahoo! Casual Games. Huge line. Saw Antonio Esfandiari the day before playing there and he was pissed. The dealer/announcer kept making really really bad jokes and ribbing him. Cracked me up to see a magician/show-biz-personality sulking. /images/graemlins/grin.gif