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Maulik
05-30-2005, 10:58 PM
If you play your strong hands with standard raises, with positoin and bring in same amount every time. Many times you won't get action. Can I start raises w/ 67 suited to get action on many hands and do things that Doyle does. It seems like power poker is better when you have the ability to outplay players on the flop

p423 SS1 NL chapter Dolly Brunson



holla
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An example will best show you what I'm talking about. Let's say I raised before the Flop with a type of hand that'se one of my favorites: suited connectors. I'm in the pot with one player who called behind me. At this point, I put him on a couple of big cards or a medium Pair. That's all right. Its what I ant him to have. Now here's what'll happen if the following comes up

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Dolly:
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curious because I saw way too many players playing poker like a tourney at a NL table

theredpill5
05-30-2005, 11:03 PM
I would think that if you are playing higher limit NL or a tough game that you would have to do something different. I'd rather raise T9s , though, than 67 suited.

Maulik
05-31-2005, 05:50 PM
is this all the action this post is going to get?

Brunson was not a monkey, give me some advice.

StLouisMike
05-31-2005, 06:27 PM
Try to outplay/runover people in small stakes nl games and you'll go broke quick. Theres some action for ya.


Mike

Maulik
05-31-2005, 06:51 PM
do I need to move up in limits to make plays like this?

I played extremely tight at the 1/2 game, but didn't always get action when I wanted.

I want to get action often.

StLouisMike
05-31-2005, 07:40 PM
Mix up your preflop raises, continue playing tight. If you feel that showing a bluff will help you get more action do it. You are talking about a live game, correct? Don't force the action and wind up broke because you have a need for it. The main thing is most likely to work on your post flop game and then you will feel more confident in playing aggressively with marginal hands after the flop. To me those are the hands that make the most money.

Mike

poboy
05-31-2005, 08:46 PM
What Doyle is discussing applies to a very specific type of game. Namely deep-stack high-stakes poker against people who are capable of more than 1st level thinking. Your typical SSNL game will not have these attributes. Honestly I find it hard to believe that you're having trouble getting action in a 1/2 game, how many hands are we talking about? If you're talking about a session or two, just give it time. If you're talking about the last six months, find a new game. JMO

Maulik
05-31-2005, 10:57 PM
It was my first trip to a casino playing NL. There were waves where the action was great, others where it was in DIRE need of some action.

Most of the time it is obvious who is raising with what and this is a problem when you can put players on AK, JJ+. Assuminng the game is 1/2 you have 44, you limp for $2, player raises to $12, no callers, you have $300 in front of you and the raisor has $150, do you make this call?

Trainwreck
05-31-2005, 11:09 PM
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Most of the time it is obvious who is raising with what and this is a problem when you can put players on AK, JJ+.

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Hi, why is that a problem? That is IDEAL!

The 2/5 I am told is even tighter typically then 1/2 here in Vegas.

I am a 1/2 player and when I do not like the dynamic at the table, I find another one.

Plenty of sessions are very boring, others not so... Action isn't everything.

I mix it up plenty, but am also determining ASAP who the maniac raisers are and not playing speculative hands that shouldn't pay any raise if they are still to act behind me.

This includes low pairs, sooted connectors lower than KQ, KJo, any Q9/QT/QJ/KT/JT/J9 and similar hands.

>TW<

wtfsvi
05-31-2005, 11:27 PM
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...when you can put players on AK, JJ+. Assuminng the game is 1/2 you have 44, you limp for $2, player raises to $12, no callers, you have $300 in front of you and the raisor has $150, do you make this call?

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Sure you do, if you think it's quite likely he will call off his stack with an overpair.