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Karak567
05-29-2005, 03:14 PM
Figured with all this action, limpers, raises... I had to get a caller.

***** Hand History for Game 2124271713 *****
NL Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:12634806 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Sunday, May 29, 15:12:54 EDT 2005
Table Table 14515 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: shimigo83 ( $755 )
Seat 4: gpbrian ( $785 )
Seat 5: Diesel2000 ( $1025 )
Seat 6: deltaboogman ( $823 )
Seat 7: SpartyMI ( $800 )
Seat 9: JOHNCL ( $675 )
Seat 10: LeonPhelps2 ( $785 )
Seat 3: sepher28 ( $775 )
Seat 2: DuaneCorley ( $755 )
Seat 8: PAINTINFOOL ( $822 )
Trny:12634806 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to sepher28 [ Qd Qc ]
deltaboogman calls [15].
SpartyMI calls [15].
PAINTINFOOL raises [65].
JOHNCL folds.
LeonPhelps2 calls [65].
shimigo83 folds.
DuaneCorley folds.
sepher28 is all-In [775]

Bigwig
05-29-2005, 03:16 PM
All-in is the preferred play here.

TheNoodleMan
05-29-2005, 03:22 PM
I don't like it. most of the time you get a call here you're looking at AA, KK, or AK. Most of the weaker hands are forced out. One of the advantages of pushing is that it negates position, but here you have the button. Why waste that advantage. I'd re-raise to about 200.

Bigwig
05-29-2005, 03:26 PM
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I'd re-raise to about 200.

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That's fine for facing one raiser. However, you have a raiser, a caller, and two limpers. QQ is not AA or KK, and your raise size must reflect that. Hero needs to make this pot 300-350, and that is half his stack.

I think pushing is by far the best play here.

Karak567
05-29-2005, 04:43 PM
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I don't like it. most of the time you get a call here you're looking at AA, KK, or AK. Most of the weaker hands are forced out. One of the advantages of pushing is that it negates position, but here you have the button. Why waste that advantage. I'd re-raise to about 200.

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I want AK to call and this is a 22, Ax is just as likely to call as well.

I think I agree with the others that I did the right thing.

J-Lo
05-29-2005, 04:47 PM
what if this was a $55, not because of the "higher" quality of players, but because of the larger stack sizes (2000 xtra chips in play). Would a push still be the favorable play?

TheNoodleMan
05-29-2005, 05:20 PM
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I want AK to call and this is a 22, Ax is just as likely to call as well.

I think I agree with the others that I did the right thing.

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I don't think its a horrible or anything. I can definitely see the merits of pushing here, but I don't think that you should want AK to call. This is way to early to be happy about getting all in on a coin flip.
I do agree about the Ax calls that you are likely to get here though, so hopefully its not AK, or even better they could both have AK.

Karak567
05-29-2005, 05:25 PM
It's more than a coin-flip in my favor QQ vs AKos.

Bigwig
05-29-2005, 06:24 PM
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what if this was a $55, not because of the "higher" quality of players, but because of the larger stack sizes (2000 xtra chips in play). Would a push still be the favorable play?

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It would depend on the size of Hero's stack. If Hero entered the hand with 1000 or more, then I doubt pushing is optimal.