$55s - Crushing a Continuation Bet

[Unarmed]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG+1 (t985)
UTG+2 (t865)
MP1 (t1000)
Hero (t985)
MP3 (t985)
CO (t880)
Button (t970)
SB (t985)
BB (t985)
UTG (t1360)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t50</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t50, MP3 calls t50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls t35.

Flop: (t257.50) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t125</font>, UTG+2 folds, I push, MP3 folds, BB folds, UTG calls t810.

Turn: (t1192.50) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t1192.50) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t1192.50

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has Ac Qc (high card, ace).
Hero has Td Ts (one pair, tens).
Outcome: Hero wins t1192.50. </font>

[Phil Van Sexton]

Just curious....what would you have done if he had checkraised you allin instead of making this weak semi-bluff?

[Unarmed]

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Just curious....what would you have done if he had checkraised you allin instead of making this weak semi-bluff?

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If he checks this flop he's given it up as far as I'm concerned. If he has AA and is checking it into 4 opponents on an awful board then I lose.

[durron597]

Are you aware that you are behind to Ac Qc on this flop?

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=989233
pokenum -h ac qc - ts td -- 6s 5c 3c
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 6s 5c 3c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ac Qc 536 54.14 436 44.04 18 1.82 0.551
Ts Td 436 44.04 536 54.14 18 1.82 0.449

Phil is right. If he had checkraised you allin he would have gotten you to get your stack in with the dog end of a coinflip.

He is definitely correct to call your push, though.

Edit: I forgot to put the board cards into twodimes!

[zipppy]

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Are you aware that you are behind to Ac Qc on this flop?

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=121295
pokenum -h ac qc - td ts
Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ac Qc 784923 45.84 921207 53.80 6174 0.36 0.460
Ts Td 921207 53.80 784923 45.84 6174 0.36 0.540

Phil is right. If he had checkraised you allin he would have gotten you to get your stack in with the dog end of a coinflip.

He is definitely correct to call your push, though.

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How is he behind? isn't he ~54% to win?

[Freudian]

Is raising with AQs UTG in level 1 a standard move in the 55s?

[Unarmed]

[ QUOTE ]
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Are you aware that you are behind to Ac Qc on this flop?

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=121295
pokenum -h ac qc - td ts
Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ac Qc 784923 45.84 921207 53.80 6174 0.36 0.460
Ts Td 921207 53.80 784923 45.84 6174 0.36 0.540

Phil is right. If he had checkraised you allin he would have gotten you to get your stack in with the dog end of a coinflip.

He is definitely correct to call your push, though.

[/ QUOTE ]

How is he behind? isn't he ~54% to win?

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No, I'm definitely behind. I shouldn't have posted the results, they're meaningless. Villain would probably have done this with AK no club, I see it all the time.

Anyway, as the hand played out, Villain was correct to call my push. If he had checked, I led for 180, he called and flipped over AcKc, I would call.

[Unarmed]

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Is raising with AQs UTG in level 1 a standard move in the 55s?

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LOL. What? People open raise with QJ UTG at the 55s, and that's being kind.

[zipppy]

I see now; I thought Durron had posted the %s for after the flop had come.

[Freudian]

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Is raising with AQs UTG in level 1 a standard move in the 55s?

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LOL. What? People open raise with QJ UTG at the 55s, and that's being kind.

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I meant among good players. I think one could build a horror cabinet of bad UTG raises made by donkeys at all limits.

[microbet]

Raising with AQs UTG doesn't belong in any horror cabinet.

The terrible play here, IMO, is that UTG made a 1/2 pot continuation bet, possibly with the reasonable idea that he could get away from the hand, and then called a push.

[Freudian]

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Raising with AQs UTG doesn't belong in any horror cabinet.

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I was referring to QJ.

[microbet]

Unproductive and off-subject. My apologies.

[Freudian]

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Unproductive and off-subject. My apologies.

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And I still haven't gotten an answer to if raising with AQs UTG in level 1 is a standard move by good players with 1000 starting chips. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[BradleyT]

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I see now; I thought Durron had posted the %s for after the flop had come.

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Those are the numbers after the flop.

A hand like Ac7c is a favorite over KhKd on a 7h Tc 2c flop too.

[microbet]

Didn't notice he had the nut flush draw. I haven't put in my contacts yet. /images/graemlins/blush.gif It wasn't that terrible. I would have bet more on the flop if I were him though.