5 Card Stud 32 cards

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I noticed they were spreading 5 Card Stud 32 cards at my local casino. They strip the 2s 3s 4s 5s and 6s. Anyone know this game? It's different from Mexican Poker, right?

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I noticed they were spreading 5 Card Stud 32 cards at my local casino. They strip the 2s 3s 4s 5s and 6s. Anyone know this game? It's different from Mexican Poker, right?

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It's called "Asian stud", and it's dealt like normal 5-stud. Usually, a flush beats a full house (the partial deck makes full houses more common than flushes), the high card starts the action on 2nd street, and A789T counts as a straight.

Mexican poker is also a 5-stud variant usually played with a partial deck, but they usually add a joker and remove the 8s, 9s, and 10s for a total of 41 cards (4567J, 567JQ, etc. count as straights). The unique thing about Mexican poker is that you have the option to expose your downcard after any betting round, and if you do then your next card is dealt face-down.

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I noticed they were spreading 5 Card Stud 32 cards at my local casino. They strip the 2s 3s 4s 5s and 6s. Anyone know this game? It's different from Mexican Poker, right?

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It's called "Asian stud", and it's dealt like normal 5-stud. Usually, a flush beats a full house (the partial deck makes full houses more common than flushes), the high card starts the action on 2nd street, and A789T counts as a straight.

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Weird, I've heard it called Spanish Stud (as the deck is often called a Spanish Deck, or sometimes an English Deck), but never Asian stud. Plus, If I'm running the numbers right, a flush is actually harder to get than four of a kind.

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Mexican poker is also a 5-stud variant usually played with a partial deck, but they usually add a joker and remove the 8s, 9s, and 10s for a total of 41 cards (4567J, 567JQ, etc. count as straights). The unique thing about Mexican poker is that you have the option to expose your downcard after any betting round, and if you do then your next card is dealt face-down.

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Huh. That's a stripped deck I'm not familiar with. And the mexican stud game I'm familiar with you get all your cards down, and flip one before each round of betting.

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[Iceman]

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I noticed they were spreading 5 Card Stud 32 cards at my local casino. They strip the 2s 3s 4s 5s and 6s. Anyone know this game? It's different from Mexican Poker, right?

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It's called "Asian stud", and it's dealt like normal 5-stud. Usually, a flush beats a full house (the partial deck makes full houses more common than flushes), the high card starts the action on 2nd street, and A789T counts as a straight.

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Weird, I've heard it called Spanish Stud (as the deck is often called a Spanish Deck, or sometimes an English Deck), but never Asian stud.

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I thought a Spanish Deck only has the 10s removed. Draw poker and 5-stud are often played with a 32-card deck in Asia, so maybe that's where the name comes from. There is also a holdem variant called Manila that uses a 32-card deck and deals the five board cards one at a time for six betting rounds.

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Plus, If I'm running the numbers right, a flush is actually harder to get than four of a kind.

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There are 8*28 ways to get four of a kind - 8 different ranks of quads and 28 possible fifth cards = 224.

There are 4*8C5 ways to get a flush - 4 suits and (8*7*6*5*4)/(5*4*3*2*1) possible flushes in each suit = 224.

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Mexican poker is also a 5-stud variant usually played with a partial deck, but they usually add a joker and remove the 8s, 9s, and 10s for a total of 41 cards (4567J, 567JQ, etc. count as straights). The unique thing about Mexican poker is that you have the option to expose your downcard after any betting round, and if you do then your next card is dealt face-down.

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Huh. That's a stripped deck I'm not familiar with. And the mexican stud game I'm familiar with you get all your cards down, and flip one before each round of betting.

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It's played with slightly different rules in different casinos, but I've only heard of it being dealt like normal 5-stud. I've heard of Mexican stud games that use the full deck instead of a partial deck, or that make the joker totally wild whether dealt face-up or face-down.

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Plus, If I'm running the numbers right, a flush is actually harder to get than four of a kind.

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There are 8*28 ways to get four of a kind - 8 different ranks of quads and 28 possible fifth cards = 224.

There are 4*8C5 ways to get a flush - 4 suits and (8*7*6*5*4)/(5*4*3*2*1) possible flushes in each suit = 224.


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Yeah, but some of those flushes are straight flushes. If the game still allows ace low flushes, you have 5 straights in four suits for 20 straight flushes. That leaves 204 plain flushes against 224 quads. Even if ace low flushes aren't allowed, it's still 208 against 224.

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It's played with slightly different rules in different casinos, but I've only heard of it being dealt like normal 5-stud. I've heard of Mexican stud games that use the full deck instead of a partial deck, or that make the joker totally wild whether dealt face-up or face-down.

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How is the joker handled in other versions you've seen? As a bug?

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Plus, If I'm running the numbers right, a flush is actually harder to get than four of a kind.

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There are 8*28 ways to get four of a kind - 8 different ranks of quads and 28 possible fifth cards = 224.

There are 4*8C5 ways to get a flush - 4 suits and (8*7*6*5*4)/(5*4*3*2*1) possible flushes in each suit = 224.


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Yeah, but some of those flushes are straight flushes. If the game still allows ace low flushes, you have 5 straights in four suits for 20 straight flushes. That leaves 204 plain flushes against 224 quads. Even if ace low flushes aren't allowed, it's still 208 against 224.


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That's out of about 200,000 possible 5-card hands, so flushes and flush draws would virtually never come into play anyway.

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It's played with slightly different rules in different casinos, but I've only heard of it being dealt like normal 5-stud. I've heard of Mexican stud games that use the full deck instead of a partial deck, or that make the joker totally wild whether dealt face-up or face-down.

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How is the joker handled in other versions you've seen? As a bug?

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It's a bug if you it's dealt to you face-up, and it's totally wild if it's dealt to you face-down, even if you later turn it up.