real world politics

[brad]

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2002/2949idf_qaeda.html

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The United States government has been provided with concrete evidence that the Israeli Mossad and other Israeli intelligence services have been involved in a 13-month effort to "recruit" an Israeli-run, phony "al-Qaeda cell" among Palestinians, so that Israel could achieve a frontline position in the U.S. war against terrorism and get a green light for a worldwide "revenge without borders" policy.
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thats the way things get done in the real world. false flags.

[HDPM]

Your source is suspect here. I'll let others elaborate. /forums/images/icons/smirk.gif

[ripdog]

I'm with HDPM on this one, brad. Mr. Larouche has been seen on the Seattle area public access channel a few times. He makes Ross Perot seem perfectly sane. In his defense, though, maybe his insane behavior is caused by a head injury and isn't really his fault.

[andyfox]

"American leader Lyndon LaRouche, a Democratic Presidential pre-candidate in 2004, commented that. . ."

-With all due respect, almost all of Brad's sources are suspect.

-What is a "pre-candidate"?

-Mr. LaRouche's "real world" does not exist.

[brad]

do u disagree with the general premise, eg, remember the maine!

do u dispute the validity of the northwoods documents?

how many people would think your totally fabricating bohemian grove?

[brad]

well did israel fund and found hamas?

its the general principle im talking about here l.l. is a dirty socialist imho but that doesnt mean everything he says is untrue.

btw ive seen other articles about this but just decided to post about it when i saw this one.

[Chris Alger]

No, Israel did not found Hamas. During the 1980's, Israel supported Hamas as a religious alternative to the (largely secular) PLO. I stopped about the time that the Hamas spiritual leader, Sheik Yassin, became militant.

[brad]

well same principle.

you infiltrate opposition and create splinter groups, etc.

like the NRA here in US. its the 'loyal opposition'. on a lot of gun restrictions they are 'neutral'. basically the leadership has sold out so even though members are good at the top they actually support dismantling of 2nd amemndment.