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octaveshift
05-28-2005, 08:15 PM
I instacalled this. I figure I will be flamed for even asking this, but given my stack size, I am wondering if it was the right move.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Hero (t2040)
BB (t3056)
UTG (t1140)
Button (t1764)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t1764 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero....?

Nick B.
05-28-2005, 08:16 PM
I would call.

dhende3
05-28-2005, 08:19 PM
Tough one, depends on how much FE I thought the other players would give me. At a ridiculously tight table I fold but probably call 95% of the time.

Degen
05-28-2005, 08:25 PM
thats like a sooooper insta call.

only time i'd fold is if i was facing a raise and a re raise.


Andre

octaveshift
05-28-2005, 09:54 PM
OK, about what I figured.

Now, for argument's sake, let's assume we know the villain will ONLY push with KQ, AQ, AK, QQ, KK, AA.

Is it still an instacall?

lastchance
05-28-2005, 10:04 PM
Are you insane?

First, that's not a reasonable range. If that guy's pushing KQ, he sure as hell is pushing AT, AJ, 99, 88, 77, all of which you have pwned.

Second, JJ only 45/55 against your absolutely absurd range of hands. Don't make up excuses to fold this.

If you can put your opponent on AJ+, 77+, you can fold this. There's no way any reasonable opponent pushes only those hands.

octaveshift
05-28-2005, 10:18 PM
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Are you insane?

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No, I am just trying to understand whether I would want to take a coinflip on the bubble, when I am in 2nd, with about twice as many chips as the guy in 3rd.

Because I was playing for first, I believed it was a clear call. In the past, however, I have made moves that I thought were totally brainless, and come to find out later that they were definitely wrong.

Thanks for your help with hands like this. I know they probably make me look like a jackass- but I'm just trying to improve my game.

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NYCNative
05-29-2005, 06:21 AM
I say this a lot: Jacks are the fifth best starting hand in HE. With a four-handed table, that means you would have to be incredibly unlucky to be against the other four (and one of those four you're favored over anyway). You have to push. What happened on this hand anyway?