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MixedNuts
05-28-2005, 07:03 PM
Another problem with AK, Hand 1.

This will be a series of posts soliciting advice on how to play AK, it is my biggest loser and I need some help to fix this leak.

Villan is vLPP (50%+/3%/1.00/21%)

My 1st impression on this is that I played this as best I could..... well you'll see.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($10.75)
UTG+1 ($54.6)
<font color="#C00000">MP1 :#A500AF(Villan)/ ($23.68)</font>
MP2 ($19.3)
MP3 ($21.1)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($44.1)</font>
Button ($23.67)
SB ($89.1)
BB ($53.8)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 :#A500AF(Villan)/ calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 :#A500AF(Villan)/ calls $2.50.

Flop: ($6.75) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Villan bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, Villan calls $4.

Turn: ($17.85) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villan checks, Hero checks.

River: ($17.85) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villan checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $18.75

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Villan has Qh As (pair of queens).
Hero has Ks Ad (high card, ace).
Outcome: Villan wins $19.75. </font>

Any advice on a better line of play?

Thnaks in advance

DoubleDown
05-28-2005, 07:19 PM
Raise more on the flop (~$9-10) ... or fold

theredpill5
05-28-2005, 10:16 PM
It really depends on what type of player you are up against here. You only have one player seeing the flop with you. This is good. If the player is loose at all, meaning his VPIP is above 20 % , just fold and move on. Don't try to get him off of his hand. I see that you are playing .25/.50 NL. I would just fold and move on here. I typically check flops with AK when I miss when playing .25/.50 NL and lower. I've found over the long run that I really lose money by betting out against these loose/calling stations. You'll find that too.

heretowin
05-28-2005, 10:29 PM
It looks to me like you played this fine. You raised him looking to take the pot right there feeling that he might be weak, and maybe on a draw, I am really surprised that he did not fold this hand on the flop. Once he called your raise it seems like he has a piece of the flop and you can just let go of this easily.

Sephus
05-28-2005, 10:33 PM
raise a lil more on flop.

billymonk
05-28-2005, 10:43 PM
Edit: After looking at a couple of the posts in this thread, I have to agree with a larger flop raise. Someone said $8-10 and I agree. I probably pot it.

Malachii
05-29-2005, 12:10 AM
You missed the flop. Fold to his bet.

Malachii
05-29-2005, 12:11 AM
Huh? All he has is AK, there's a bet infront of him, and he could easily be reverse dominated by A-10. This is a fold six ways from Sunday. You'll find better spots to get your money in.

nietzreznor
05-29-2005, 12:55 AM
Hero obviously could fold here, but I like the raise. Villain bet $2 into a $7-ish pot, that reeks of weakness to me. As others have mentioned, if you are going to raise, you have to raise enough so that villain would actually consider folding. Obviously if raise is called, heor will have to shut down unless he improves (barring an amazing read). A standard raise makes villain either fold or make a big error if he calls.

MixedNuts
05-29-2005, 01:37 PM
Although the guy is vLPP, hist showdown number is only 21%, (see last profile stat, sorry I didn't explain all the numbers in the profile stat list) so I figured I could get him off a weak hand. Apparently not, perhaps the $10 raise would make him fold 2 overcards, but given the play I don't think so.

As for folding, I guess even against the vL player I can see your point, however I go back to the averages and assume that the average "hit" on the flop is 33% and that I still have the best hand, which was correct this time.

It's interesting that the advice on the flop play is about 50/50 between big raise and folding.

poboy
05-29-2005, 02:38 PM
Looks good to me. I would probably raise a little more on the flop, he probably isn't going anywhere but at least you get more money in while your ahead. JMO

DrLAXLAX
05-29-2005, 03:02 PM
For my oppinion if y miss the flop with Ak then its better for y to shut down, becoz guy bets into you 2$ y raised 6$ and why? If i was him i never fold my hand to such small reraise if i had something. If y raise allin then you probably make him fold, but reraising with nothing isnt smart thing i think. in my opinion y should fold.

SmackinYaUp
05-29-2005, 09:50 PM
I think you played this hand fine. A slightly bigger raise would be OK here as well. Villain played this hand absolutely horribly. He bets weak into the pot, calls a raise with nothing, and then when he does hit he gives up on the hand. Pure idiocy. Hopefully you got a lot of money from him later on.

I think you did ok. You raise with a whiffed AK, got a call and gave up on the hand. That's usually what I would do. Just dont forget to mix your play up sometimes. Against opponents like your villain, however, I doubt mixing your play has any purpose.

allintuit
05-30-2005, 12:10 AM
Though lots of people are saying that a larger raise on the flop was warrented, I don't think so, because someone who calls a raise of that size with AQ is prone to go to the river on almost anything. Im not sure that you could have done much more with that hand.

ChuckyB
05-30-2005, 12:32 AM
Malachi is absolutely right. Since this is a cash game you may have (at best 6 outs, but possibly 3 if he shares one of your cards), I'd let it go.

imported_anacardo
05-30-2005, 01:31 AM
Field-strip it, making sure there's no dirt or grease to clog the actions. A standard oiling and wipe-down will fix 90% of your jamming problems.