AA hand--not sure if played correctly.

[xLukex]

Ok, maybe my preflop raise should've been higher? Guess what villain has.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB (t940)
UTG (t740)
UTG+1 (t965)
Hero (t800)
MP1 (t705)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t755)
CO (t735)
Button (t775)
SB (t785)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t15, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t45</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t45, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls t30, UTG+1 calls t30.

Flop: (t187.50) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t15</font>, UTG+1 calls t15, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t75</font>, MP3 calls t75, BB folds, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (t367.50) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t150</font>, Hero calls t485.

River: (t1002.50) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t1002.50

On the turn, I bet 150, the other guy pushed, I called. Converter mess up.

[citanul]

a little more information than just "this is an 800 chip game" would be nice, though most of them play fairly close to each other for hands like this.

your preflop raise is too small.

your raise on the flop is too small.

the turn action, if it went check he pushes call is i guess fine in this line, though just pushing the turn would be more appropriate i feel. then again, had you raised more preflop and more on the flop, you would not have any "hard" decisions to make like "do i get all in with aces on a totally raggedy flop."

as for guessing what he had, i'll say Q6o, though i honestly couldn't care less.

citanul

[Voltron87]

raise more pf, bet more on the flop. or checkraise. make it big though. if you dont cr bomb the turn, unless a really awful card comes out.

[xLukex]

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a little more information than just "this is an 800 chip game" would be nice, though most of them play fairly close to each other for hands like this.

your preflop raise is too small.

your raise on the flop is too small.

the turn action, if it went check he pushes call is i guess fine in this line, though just pushing the turn would be more appropriate i feel. then again, had you raised more preflop and more on the flop, you would not have any "hard" decisions to make like "do i get all in with aces on a totally raggedy flop."

as for guessing what he had, i'll say Q6o, though i honestly couldn't care less.

citanul

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Raise should've been what...75 according to Daliman's formula?

Bet the pot on the flop and just push on the turn?

You didn't guess the hand remotely right. I thought you would've gotten it.

[Voltron87]

125

[xLukex]

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125

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Isn't it 3xBB + 2xBB(Limper)?

45 + 30?

Eh?

[Voltron87]

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125

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Isn't it 3xBB + 2xBB(Limper)?

45 + 30?

Eh?

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If this is a 800 chip party game, at the first level, no matter what equation I use, the answer is 125.

3xBB + 2x limpers= 125.

4xBB= 125

40/3 times 15 squared= raise to 125.

do you get my point?

[xLukex]

Ok, well I get it now, but I was trying to apply Daliman's formula. I guess the formula should go out the window with AA though huh.

Oh, and it WAS my preflop raise that wasn't big enough, as I was called and busted with 66.

[Nick B.]

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Ok, well I get it now, but I was trying to apply Daliman's formula. I guess the formula should go out the window with AA though huh.

Oh, and it WAS my preflop raise that wasn't big enough, as I was called and busted with 66.

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Those are the breaks. PFR is fine.

[Voltron87]

Raise to 125 because: It kills implied odds against you. 45 does not. If you're a beginner/intermediate you want aces to be easy to be, you shouldn't be thinking "do I have to lay this down?". That is not productive at most levels. If you raise to 125, you can get all in 95% of the time, especially if you bet large on the flop and pot commit yourself.

Also, people will call 125 in this situation in a low SNG, they are horrible and will stack off with KJ if they make a pair of jacks. You are going for the knockout punch here.

Obviously I play aces completely different in every other situation, dont raise 10BB in a cash game from UTG 2. But in this specific low limit SNG level 1 case, that is how to play them.

[xLukex]

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Raise to 125 because: It kills implied odds against you. 45 does not. If you're a beginner/intermediate you want aces to be easy to be, you shouldn't be thinking "do I have to lay this down?". That is not productive at most levels. If you raise to 125, you can get all in 95% of the time, especially if you bet large on the flop and pot commit yourself.

Also, people will call 125 in this situation in a low SNG, they are horrible and will stack off with KJ if they make a pair of jacks. You are going for the knockout punch here.

Obviously I play aces completely different in every other situation, dont raise 10BB in a cash game from UTG 2. But in this specific low limit SNG level 1 case, that is how to play them.

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Ok, that is a better explanation. Thanks. /images/graemlins/smile.gif