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paperchamp
05-27-2005, 11:09 PM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG+1 ($21.05)
UTG+2 ($33.05)
MP1 ($19.55)
MP2 ($18.75)
MP3 ($16.8)
CO ($25.8)
Hero ($18)
SB ($37.2)
BB ($38.28)
UTG ($26.49)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.1.
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $2.25</font>, UTG calls $2.25, UTG+2 calls $2, MP2 folds, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($10.60) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $10.1</font>, UTG calls $10.10, UTG+2 folds, action is on Hero...

At this point in the hand hero has about $15 left. If you are hero do you call, go all-in, or fold? Why?

thesharpie
05-27-2005, 11:31 PM
I go all in. Getting 3-1 you have a huge equity edge.

Question, does party allow BB to reraise if you push all in for your last $5? I'd rather keep UTG in.

paperchamp
05-27-2005, 11:36 PM
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Question, does party allow BB to reraise if you push all in for your last $5? I'd rather keep UTG in.

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No, you cannot re-raise on PP if the bet isn't doubled.

thesharpie
05-27-2005, 11:42 PM
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Question, does party allow BB to reraise if you push all in for your last $5? I'd rather keep UTG in.

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No, you cannot re-raise on PP if the bet isn't doubled.

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Nice. You're getting about 2.66 to 1 if you push, and you're about 1.2 to 1 to have the best hand by the river.

soah
05-27-2005, 11:54 PM
It's doubtful all of your overcard outs are live. You'd have to put BB on JJ and UTG on something like KT... this seems unlikely.

thesharpie
05-28-2005, 12:04 AM
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It's doubtful all of your overcard outs are live. You'd have to put BB on JJ and UTG on something like KT... this seems unlikely.

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That's why I only counted half of the overcard outs. If they were all live he'd be a favorite to make his hand by the river.

Malachii
05-28-2005, 01:43 AM
Replying in the dark here. I fold this preflop to the reraise. On the flop, hmm, it's tough, given your stack size. You don't have any fold equity on a push, and a queen is definitely not winning this one for you. Still, you've got a solid draw to the nuts, and an ace might win it for you. I'd say you've got about 40% pot equity (roughly). Pushing is high variance, but +EV with two callers IMO.

Malachii
05-28-2005, 01:47 AM
I would discount the queen entirely and count the ace as 1.5.

paperchamp
05-28-2005, 01:54 AM
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I would discount the queen entirely and count the ace as 1.5.

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Just curious...why discount the queen entirely and not the ace? Is it because you think someone is likely to showdown KK with the Kd?

paperchamp
05-28-2005, 07:11 PM
I'll post the results soon if nobody has anything to add.