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EasilyFound
05-27-2005, 06:25 PM
Okay. One aspect of the game that I am still not comfortable playing is when I have the big stack and the game is short handed. Funny, most of you are probably saying, "You idiot. That is exactly where you want to be. This is where it gets to be fun." Perhaps that is true. But I'm still learning how to play this thing, and I've gotten comfortable playing the early stage and the middle stage. BTW, I realize that just because I've become more comfortable playing those levels doesn't mean that I continue to make the correct judgment. But at least, at those stages, my judgment is not clouded by the additional fact that I'm uncomfortable. But I'm digressing, and your time is valuable.

Anyway, I get uncomfortable as chip leader because I don't want to blow it. I'm ahead. Barring some bad luck, if I exercise good judgment, I'm in excellent shape to drive up my ROI.

Problem is this — I'm not sure how aggressive I'm supposed to be. Do I loosen my starting requirements when I'm first in the pot? How big a raise do you make upon entering the pot? Do you mini-raise? Do you just push? I've been in games where the big stack employs each of these strategies.

Now, I know that these questions cannot be answered in the abstract, and that there are many factors to consider, such as how much of lead you have and how the other folks have been playing. So, to make this more concrete, I'm going to provide a HH beginning when I am the chip leader on the bubble and all the way to my final hand. You will see how I played the hands, and I'd like to know what you think of my play if you have the time to review it.

Plus, I hope that this will be helpful to other people as well, not just me.

Thanks.

$11 SNG at Party Poker:

***** Hand History for Game 2114534886 *****
SoylentCo finished in fifth place.
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12577335) - Fri May 27 16:52:19 EDT 2005
Table Table 35339 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: Here_to_play (1720)
Seat 3: coloisra (1455)
Seat 8: EasilyFound (3010)
Seat 10: sedge94 (1815)
coloisra posts small blind (150)
EasilyFound posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ Kc, Th ]
sedge94: vnh
sedge94 folds.
Here_to_play folds.
coloisra raises (450) to 600
EasilyFound: tx
EasilyFound calls (300)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qc, 5c, 5h ]
coloisra bets (375)
EasilyFound folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1575
Board: [ Qc 5c 5h ]
Here_to_play balance 1720, didn't bet (folded)
coloisra balance 2055, bet 975, collected 1575, net +600
EasilyFound balance 2410, lost 600 (folded)
sedge94 balance 1815, didn't bet (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 2114537022 *****
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12577335) - Fri May 27 16:52:50 EDT 2005
Table Table 35339 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: Here_to_play (1720)
Seat 3: coloisra (2055)
Seat 8: EasilyFound (2410)
Seat 10: sedge94 (1815)
EasilyFound posts small blind (150)
sedge94 posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ Td, 8h ]
Here_to_play raises (1720) to 1720
Here_to_play is all-In.
coloisra folds.
EasilyFound folds.
sedge94 folds.
Creating Main Pot with $2170 with Here_to_play
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2170
Here_to_play balance 2170, bet 1720, collected 2170, net +450
coloisra balance 2055, didn't bet (folded)
EasilyFound balance 2260, lost 150 (folded)
sedge94 balance 1515, lost 300 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 2114538182 *****
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12577335) - Fri May 27 16:53:07 EDT 2005
Table Table 35339 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: Here_to_play (2170)
Seat 3: coloisra (2055)
Seat 8: EasilyFound (2260)
Seat 10: sedge94 (1515)
sedge94 posts small blind (150)
Here_to_play posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ 7d, Ks ]
coloisra folds.
EasilyFound raises (2260) to 2260
EasilyFound is all-In.
sedge94 folds.
Here_to_play folds.
Creating Main Pot with $2710 with EasilyFound
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2710
Here_to_play balance 1870, lost 300 (folded)
coloisra balance 2055, didn't bet (folded)
EasilyFound balance 2710, bet 2260, collected 2710, net +450
sedge94 balance 1365, lost 150 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 2114541072 *****
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12577335) - Fri May 27 16:53:49 EDT 2005
Table Table 35339 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: Here_to_play (1870)
Seat 3: coloisra (2055)
Seat 8: EasilyFound (2710)
Seat 10: sedge94 (1365)
Here_to_play posts small blind (150)
coloisra posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ 9d, As ]
EasilyFound raises (2710) to 2710
EasilyFound is all-In.
sedge94 folds.
Here_to_play calls (1720)
Here_to_play is all-In.
coloisra folds.
Creating Main Pot with $4040 with Here_to_play
Creating Side Pot 1 with $840 with EasilyFound
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ad, 4h, 3h ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6s ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Ts ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4040 | Side Pot 1: 840
Board: [ Ad 4h 3h 6s Ts ]
Here_to_play balance 0, lost 1870 [ 8s 8c ] [ a pair of eights -- Ad,Ts,8s,8c,6s ]
coloisra balance 1755, lost 300 (folded)
EasilyFound balance 4880, bet 2710, collected 4880, net +2170 [ 9d As ] [ a pair of aces -- As,Ad,Ts,9d,6s ]
sedge94 balance 1365, didn't bet (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 2114542743 *****
Here_to_play finished in fourth place.
sedge94: gg
400/800 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12577335) - Fri May 27 16:54:13 EDT 2005
Table Table 35339 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 3: coloisra (1755)
Seat 8: EasilyFound (4880)
Seat 10: sedge94 (1365)
coloisra posts small blind (200)
EasilyFound posts big blind (400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ Qh, 2c ]
sedge94 folds.
Here_to_play: ty
coloisra calls (200)
EasilyFound checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9d, 3d, 4h ]
sedge94: thanks man.. got us in the $$
coloisra checks.
EasilyFound bets (500)
coloisra folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1300
Board: [ 9d 3d 4h ]
coloisra balance 1355, lost 400 (folded)
EasilyFound balance 5280, bet 900, collected 1300, net +400
sedge94 balance 1365, didn't bet (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 2114544965 *****
400/800 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12577335) - Fri May 27 16:54:45 EDT 2005
Table Table 35339 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 3: coloisra (1355)
Seat 8: EasilyFound (5280)
Seat 10: sedge94 (1365)
EasilyFound posts small blind (200)
sedge94 posts big blind (400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ 3d, Qd ]
coloisra folds.
EasilyFound raises (5080) to 5280
EasilyFound is all-In.
sedge94: have 2.. cant get blinded ou
sedge94 calls (965)
sedge94 is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $2730 with sedge94
Creating Side Pot 1 with $3915 with EasilyFound
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ad, 9c, Td ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9s ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 9d ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2730 | Side Pot 1: 3915
Board: [ Ad 9c Td 9s 9d ]
coloisra balance 1355, didn't bet (folded)
EasilyFound balance 6645, bet 5280, collected 6645, net +1365 [ 3d Qd ] [ a flush, ace high -- Ad,Qd,Td,9d,3d ]
sedge94 balance 0, lost 1365 [ Kh 4s ] [ three of a kind, nines -- Ad,Kh,9c,9s,9d ]

***** Hand History for Game 2114546964 *****
sedge94 finished in third place and won $20.
EasilyFound: gg
400/800 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12577335) - Fri May 27 16:55:15 EDT 2005
Table Table 35339 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 3: coloisra (1355)
Seat 8: EasilyFound (6645)
EasilyFound posts small blind (200)
coloisra posts big blind (400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ 7d, 5h ]
sedge94: thats rough
sedge94: gg
EasilyFound raises (6445) to 6645
EasilyFound is all-In.
coloisra calls (955)
coloisra is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $2710 with coloisra
Creating Side Pot 1 with $5290 with EasilyFound
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qh, As, Tc ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 3h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 2c ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2710 | Side Pot 1: 5290
Board: [ Qh As Tc 3h 2c ]
coloisra balance 2710, bet 1355, collected 2710, net +1355 [ Kh 4d ] [ high card ace with king kicker -- As,Kh,Qh,Tc,4d ]
EasilyFound balance 5290, bet 6645, collected 5290, lost -1355 [ 7d 5h ] [ high card ace -- As,Qh,Tc,7d,5h ]

***** Hand History for Game 2114548548 *****
400/800 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12577335) - Fri May 27 16:55:38 EDT 2005
Table Table 35339 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 3: coloisra (2710)
Seat 8: EasilyFound (5290)
coloisra posts small blind (200)
EasilyFound posts big blind (400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ Ac, 8h ]
coloisra calls (200)
EasilyFound raises (4890) to 5290
EasilyFound is all-In.
coloisra calls (2310)
coloisra is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $5420 with coloisra
Creating Side Pot 1 with $2580 with EasilyFound
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 4s, Qc, Jd ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 7s ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 5420 | Side Pot 1: 2580
Board: [ 4s Qc Jd 5h 7s ]
coloisra balance 0, lost 2710 [ 2h Kd ] [ high card king -- Kd,Qc,Jd,7s,5h ]
EasilyFound balance 8000, bet 5290, collected 8000, net +2710 [ Ac 8h ] [ high card ace -- Ac,Qc,Jd,8h,7s ]

Nick B.
05-27-2005, 06:30 PM
[ QUOTE ]
***** Hand History for Game 2114534886 *****
SoylentCo finished in fifth place.
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12577335) - Fri May 27 16:52:19 EDT 2005
Table Table 35339 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: Here_to_play (1720)
Seat 3: coloisra (1455)
Seat 8: EasilyFound (3010)
Seat 10: sedge94 (1815)
coloisra posts small blind (150)
EasilyFound posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ Kc, Th ]
sedge94: vnh
sedge94 folds.
Here_to_play folds.
coloisra raises (450) to 600
EasilyFound: tx
EasilyFound calls (300)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qc, 5c, 5h ]
coloisra bets (375)
EasilyFound folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1575
Board: [ Qc 5c 5h ]
Here_to_play balance 1720, didn't bet (folded)
coloisra balance 2055, bet 975, collected 1575, net +600
EasilyFound balance 2410, lost 600 (folded)
sedge94 balance 1815, didn't bet (folded)

[/ QUOTE ]

Push preflop. I would usually only call the minraise with a weak hand.
[ QUOTE ]
***** Hand History for Game 2114538182 *****
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12577335) - Fri May 27 16:53:07 EDT 2005
Table Table 35339 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: Here_to_play (2170)
Seat 3: coloisra (2055)
Seat 8: EasilyFound (2260)
Seat 10: sedge94 (1515)
sedge94 posts small blind (150)
Here_to_play posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ 7d, Ks ]
coloisra folds.
EasilyFound raises (2260) to 2260
EasilyFound is all-In.
sedge94 folds.
Here_to_play folds.
Creating Main Pot with $2710 with EasilyFound
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2710
Here_to_play balance 1870, lost 300 (folded)
coloisra balance 2055, didn't bet (folded)
EasilyFound balance 2710, bet 2260, collected 2710, net +450
sedge94 balance 1365, lost 150 (folded)

[/ QUOTE ]

I wouldn't push this.

[ QUOTE ]
***** Hand History for Game 2114541072 *****
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12577335) - Fri May 27 16:53:49 EDT 2005
Table Table 35339 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: Here_to_play (1870)
Seat 3: coloisra (2055)
Seat 8: EasilyFound (2710)
Seat 10: sedge94 (1365)
Here_to_play posts small blind (150)
coloisra posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ 9d, As ]
EasilyFound raises (2710) to 2710
EasilyFound is all-In.
sedge94 folds.
Here_to_play calls (1720)
Here_to_play is all-In.
coloisra folds.
Creating Main Pot with $4040 with Here_to_play
Creating Side Pot 1 with $840 with EasilyFound
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ad, 4h, 3h ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6s ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Ts ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4040 | Side Pot 1: 840
Board: [ Ad 4h 3h 6s Ts ]
Here_to_play balance 0, lost 1870 [ 8s 8c ] [ a pair of eights -- Ad,Ts,8s,8c,6s ]
coloisra balance 1755, lost 300 (folded)
EasilyFound balance 4880, bet 2710, collected 4880, net +2170 [ 9d As ] [ a pair of aces -- As,Ad,Ts,9d,6s ]
sedge94 balance 1365, didn't bet (folded)


[/ QUOTE ]

I wouldn't push this either.

Newt_Buggs
05-27-2005, 07:33 PM
Nick, isn't the A9 hand a clearly +EV push against anyone but a maniac?

Newt_Buggs
05-27-2005, 07:35 PM
unless you have a read otherwise I'de probably push this. Although it sucks to get called by the loose passive guy completing with A3o I think that you will be surprised how often you get a fold here.


***** Hand History for Game 2114542743 *****
Here_to_play finished in fourth place.
sedge94: gg
400/800 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12577335) - Fri May 27 16:54:13 EDT 2005
Table Table 35339 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 3: coloisra (1755)
Seat 8: EasilyFound (4880)
Seat 10: sedge94 (1365)
coloisra posts small blind (200)
EasilyFound posts big blind (400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ Qh, 2c ]
sedge94 folds.
Here_to_play: ty
coloisra calls (200)
EasilyFound checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9d, 3d, 4h ]
sedge94: thanks man.. got us in the $$
coloisra checks.
EasilyFound bets (500)
coloisra folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1300
Board: [ 9d 3d 4h ]
coloisra balance 1355, lost 400 (folded)
EasilyFound balance 5280, bet 900, collected 1300, net +400
sedge94 balance 1365, didn't bet (folded)