I hope I never have to buy a computer again!!!

[Talk2BigSteve]

I had a big win the other night at the casino, and instead of gambling it all away, I put it in the bank today, and I just got finished ordering this beast....

Date 5/27/200512:15 PM
Catalog Number 26 Retail RC957149
DIMENSION XPS GEN 5 Pentium® 4 Processor 660 with HT Technology (3.60GHz, 800 FSB)
MX660E - [ 221-8335 ]


Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional
WPXP - [ 313-7222412-0688412-0721420-4927420-5246 ]


Memory 4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz - 4 DIMMs
4GB64 - [ 311-5031 ]


Hard Drive 500GB Serial ATA II Hard Drive (7200RPM)
500S - [ 341-2099 ]


2nd Hard Drive 500GB Serial ATA II Hard Drive (7200RPM)
500SB - [ 341-2100 ]


CD or DVD Drive Dual Drives: 48x CD-RW Drive + 16x DVD+/-RW w/ double layer write capable
CDR6DVR - [ 313-2998420-5079 ]


Floppy Drive and Media Reader 9 in 1 Media Card Reader and 3.5 in Floppy Drive
MCRFD - [ 340-8628341-2245 ]


Monitor 20 inch Ultrasharp™ 2001FP Digital Flat Panel
2001FP - [ 320-3851 ]


Optional Second Monitor 20 inch Ultrasharp™ 2001FP Digital Flat Panel
2001FP - [ 320-3851 ]


Video Cards 256MB PCI Express™ x16 (DVI/VGA/TV-out) ATI Radeon™ X850 XT PE
X850XT - [ 320-4298 ]


Sound Cards Sound Blaster Audigy™ 2 ZS (D) Card w/Dolby 5.1, IEEE 1394 capability
SBA2X - [ 313-3041 ]


Speakers Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 Speaker System
KLIPSCH - [ 461-3821A0246235 ]


Keyboard Dell USB Enhanced Multimedia Keyboard
MMK - [ 310-5870 ]


Mouse Dell® 2-button USB mouse
SM - [ 310-6264 ]


Office Productivity Software (Pre-Installed) No Microsoft Office
MSONO - [ 412-1397 ]


Security Software McAfee SecurityCenter with VirusScan, Firewall, Spyware Removal, 15-months
MCAFE1Y - [ 412-0739 ]


Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 6.0
AAREAD - [ 412-0705 ]


Digitial Music Dell Jukebox - easy-to-use music player and CD burning software
MMBASE - [ 412-0741 ]


Digital Photography Photo Album™ SE Basic
DPS - [ 412-0744 ]


Operating System Enhancements Microsoft® Plus! for Windows XP
XPPLUS - [ 412-0285 ]


Financial Software No QuickBooks package selected- Includes limited use trial
QBSSP - [ 420-5136 ]


Internet Access Service No ISP requested
NISP - [ 412-0148412-0670 ]


Modem 56K PCI Data Fax Modem
DFAX - [ 313-2279 ]


Limited Warranty, Services and Support Options 4 Year Limited Warranty plus 4 Year On-site Service and CompleteCare
U4CC - [ 412-0357900-9773902-1253960-1949960-2800960-5540 ]


Grand Total $7,072 Free Shipping

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What a bargain.

[Shajen]

obsolete in 3 years max.

Sorry Steve, but it's true.

That's one HELL of a computer though dude.

Damn. Me jealous. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

[fluxrad]

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obsolete in 2 years max.

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FYP.

And we can all thank Moore for that one.

[kenberman]

that would be nice.

too bad you didn't actually buy it.

[Talk2BigSteve]

/images/graemlins/confused.gifI forgot to mention that I am recently purchased 2 domains and am starting a web based business in the next couple of months.

I plan to write off 75% of this purchase on my taxes next year.

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[Talk2BigSteve]

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that would be nice.

too bad you didn't actually buy it.

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What the hell are you talking about???

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[Freakin]

Should have gotten 2 2405FPWs instead of the 2001FPs

Freakin

[Shajen]

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obsolete in 2 years max.

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FYP.

And we can all thank Moore for that one.

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I was being generous.

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[Talk2BigSteve]

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Should have gotten 2 2405FPWs instead of the 2001FPs

Freakin

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Why???

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[kurosh]

You overpaid, at the least, 3k.

[Talk2BigSteve]

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You overpaid, at the least, 3k.

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I still have my e-mail addy from college up, so it was cheaper than if I had just gone to the regular Dell site. I probably could have built if for less though, but I would not have had a 4 year onsite warrenty if I did that.

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[The Yugoslavian]

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Mouse Dell® 2-button USB mouse
SM - [ 310-6264 ]


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Nice mouse, /images/graemlins/wink.gif.

Sweet system though....daaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn!

Yugoslav

[Talk2BigSteve]

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that would be nice.

too bad you didn't actually buy it.

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What the hell are you talking about???

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You must have missed my post this week in Internet Gambling about the craps table, or maybe you did not see this picture a few weeks ago from my $100 deposit at PlanetLuck Casino...
http://www.geocities.com/talk2bigsteve/7thUpdate.JPG

Whatever you want to think dude you go right ahead.

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[jnalpak]

for biz-purposes you should have went with their new financial workstations with DUAL XEON....after spending 7k how can you skimp on the mouse and keyboard, do yourself a favor and pickup a logitech wireless mouse/keyboard. You also need to be hooked up with Office 2k3.

other then that very good purchase. The terabyte of data is pretty solid and ram is g00t.

BTW, this machine WILL NOT be obsolete as the haters state. Machines will get better but in no way shape or form will you be behind the 8 ball by a whole yard.

[wacki]

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You paid more than 3 times what you should of.

[Talk2BigSteve]

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Mouse Dell® 2-button USB mouse
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Nice mouse, /images/graemlins/wink.gif.

Sweet system though....daaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn!

Yugoslav

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This is what I use for that...

http://images.tigerdirect.com/skuimages/large/K05-1002-main.jpg

Kensington Expert Mouse Trackball with Diamond Eye Optical Technology $79.99 at TigerDirect, I have this now, that is why I just went with what they gave me in the mouse catagory.

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[Freakin]

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Should have gotten 2 2405FPWs instead of the 2001FPs

Freakin

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Why???

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because they kick the ass of the 2001FP.

Freakin

[Shajen]

"640K ought to be enough for anybody." --Bill Gates, 1981

[Talk2BigSteve]

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for biz-purposes you should have went with their new financial workstations with DUAL XEON....after spending 7k how can you skimp on the mouse and keyboard, do yourself a favor and pickup a logitech wireless mouse/keyboard. You also need to be hooked up with Office 2k3.

other then that very good purchase. The terabyte of data is pretty solid and ram is g00t.

BTW, this machine WILL NOT be obsolete as the haters state. Machines will get better but in no way shape or form will you be behind the 8 ball by a whole yard.

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I have the Office for Students & Teachers now and I have the trackball that is posted in this thread as well. Yeah there is no way it will be obsolete in a few years. It may not be the Best there is in a few years, but obsolete, I think not!

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[samjjones]

Geez. I bought a Dimension 4600 P4 a couple of months back for $452 shipped /images/graemlins/ooo.gif

[Talk2BigSteve]

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You paid more than 3 times what you should of.

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Well if you can build it with all the same things and ship it for $2,573.33. Then you need a webpage for your products... I have the perfect name for your company...

CRATEWAY
http://vzone.virgin.net/sizzling.jalfrezi/slate/crate/graphics/computer.jpg

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[Nottom]

My computer cost $600 and I bet it plays online poker and reads the internet as good as yours.

[drexah]

very nice system, i think you went a little overboard on some stuff (4 gb memory) (500 gb disk space) but hell, that will last you forever. the only thing i MIGHT have changed (but they might not even offer it) is getting a nVidia GeForce 6800 ULTRA, but the card you got is VERY good anyways.

[wacki]

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Grand Total $7,072 Free Shipping

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You paid more than 3 times what you should of.

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Well if you can build it with all the same things and ship it for $2,573.33. Then you need a webpage for your products... I have the perfect name for your company...

CRATEWAY
http://vzone.virgin.net/sizzling.jalfrezi/slate/crate/graphics/computer.jpg

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If it's a business computer for an online company you would be much better off buying 2 seperate computers and running through a KVM. It's best to keep webservers seperate from workhorses. I overlooked the two 2001FP's so I say you spent twice as much as you should of. Still, you would of been much better off posting your specific needs/requirements in a tech forum or even here and then getting advice before you dropped 7K. The last time I bought a computer for 7K it was a Quad CPU server for a beowolf cluster. As for crateway... no, not even close. I build quality.

And to be honest the stats on your list don't give any details. What brand name make model are the hard drives???

Why does a does a computer need all that power anyway??? It's not designed like a server (Modem 56K PCI Data Fax Modem) and looks like a gaming machine ( ATI Radeon™ X850) if it was a graphics design machine I would of expected to see a FireGL in it. This is not the case. And the 4 GB ram is overkill for gaming and not the ECC ram needed for a server. I don't know your specific situation/needs but you looked like you clicked what you thought was the best parts and clicked send. I honestly can't think of a situation where your specific design is required let alone optimal.

That being said, it is a nice flashy machine with impressive stats.

BTW if you want impressive CPU power:

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/amd%20athlon%2064%20x2%204800%20launch_05080510055 1/7437.png

[wacki]

Btw, my quality is better then Dell's quality. You'll never see a Lian-Li, artic silver, thermalright, or a coolermaster on a Dell. Yet those things aren't necessities,BUT THEY SURE ARE NICE! I never buy lowest bidder ram or have tier 2 power supplies (which is a neccessity). Ugh, we are getting into a pissing contest and that is not my intent.

[Talk2BigSteve]

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Btw, my quality is better then Dell's quality. You'll never see a Lian-Li, artic silver, thermalright, or a coolermaster on a Dell. Yet those things aren't necessities,BUT THEY SURE ARE NICE! I never buy lowest bidder ram or have tier 2 power supplies (which is a neccessity). Ugh, we are getting into a pissing contest and that is not my intent.

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No that is fine, I am not going to be running it as a server, I have my domains hosted. Basically I wanted a computer that will last. And yes 4G of Ram is a little overkill but if you have not been in the Internet Forum to see my 2 posts about my $18K win at Craps, or my $3K win at Blackjack, then you will not know that this month I have won $21K gambling, and I needed a new computer. So I went all out while I had the extra cash. I am the first to admit that I am a compulsive gambler when I go to the B&M but I have enough sense that once I am up if I start to lose I get the hell out of there.

And like I stated earlier since I am starting a business I can write 75% of the price off my taxes as 75% business use, 25% personal.

Wacki, Send me a PM or if you have AOL or AIM put that in the PM as well. I have some questions for you about computers that I do not want to post in OOT.

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[david050173]

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Btw, my quality is better then Dell's quality. You'll never see a Lian-Li, artic silver, thermalright, or a coolermaster on a Dell. Yet those things aren't necessities,BUT THEY SURE ARE NICE! I never buy lowest bidder ram or have tier 2 power supplies (which is a neccessity). Ugh, we are getting into a pissing contest and that is not my intent.

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No that is fine, I am not going to be running it as a server, I have my domains hosted. Basically I wanted a computer that will last. And yes 4G of Ram is a little overkill but if you have not been in the Internet Forum to see my 2 posts about my $18K win at Craps, or my $3K win at Blackjack, then you will not know that this month I have won $21K gambling, and I needed a new computer. So I went all out while I had the extra cash. I am the first to admit that I am a compulsive gambler when I go to the B&M but I have enough sense that once I am up if I start to lose I get the hell out of there.

And like I stated earlier since I am starting a business I can write 75% of the price off my taxes as 75% business use, 25% personal.

Wacki, Send me a PM or if you have AOL or AIM put that in the PM as well. I have some questions for you about computers that I do not want to post in OOT.

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So your write off is like a 25-25% discount. You would get that same discount on a cheaper computer.

Some things are just overkill. That extra 400 bucks for 10% more speed. I also hope you didn't pay 750 dollars per 2001fp. That is at least 250 per monitor too much. I would have also gone with a 1-2 gigs of ram instead of 4 but that is because I know my swap never goes much past 1 gig and by the time it does ram will be a lot cheaper.

[AncientPC]

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Btw, my quality is better then Dell's quality. You'll never see a Lian-Li, artic silver, thermalright, or a coolermaster on a Dell. Yet those things aren't necessities,BUT THEY SURE ARE NICE! I never buy lowest bidder ram or have tier 2 power supplies (which is a neccessity). Ugh, we are getting into a pissing contest and that is not my intent.

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No that is fine, I am not going to be running it as a server, I have my domains hosted. Basically I wanted a computer that will last. And yes 4G of Ram is a little overkill but if you have not been in the Internet Forum to see my 2 posts about my $18K win at Craps, or my $3K win at Blackjack, then you will not know that this month I have won $21K gambling, and I needed a new computer. So I went all out while I had the extra cash. I am the first to admit that I am a compulsive gambler when I go to the B&M but I have enough sense that once I am up if I start to lose I get the hell out of there.

And like I stated earlier since I am starting a business I can write 75% of the price off my taxes as 75% business use, 25% personal.

Wacki, Send me a PM or if you have AOL or AIM put that in the PM as well. I have some questions for you about computers that I do not want to post in OOT.

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Then you should put that money and spent $3k on a top of the line computer and buy another computer in 2 years.

Right now you're just buying a lot of stuff you don't need, you sound like a compulsive spender too.

[wacki]

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Then you should put that money and spent $3k on a top of the line computer and buy another computer in 2 years.

Right now you're just buying a lot of stuff you don't need, you sound like a compulsive spender too.

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Finally, some backup. Thankyou ancientPC.

Steve, I suggest you post what you want to do here:

http://forums.anandtech.com/

You can PM me a link to the thread and I will make sure you are not steered wrong. Time is precious and I spend way too much time in OOT as is. Writing up a list and explaining everything will take me atleast an hour.

Still all the answers you need are given on a daily basis at anandtech. Just read the forums or post what you want to do and they will help you.

[JackThree]

you bought a computer /images/graemlins/ooo.gif

[mikeyvegas]

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You paid more than 3 times what you should of.

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