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Unarmed
05-26-2005, 11:44 PM
Note that the player to my left has less than 3xBB. Blinds up in 5 hands.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP1 (t1020)
MP2 (t995)
CO (t1115)
Button (t665)
SB (t2225)
BB (t2340)
Hero (t1120)
UTG+1 (t520)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif

Moonsugar
05-26-2005, 11:50 PM
Pushing is friggin retarded.

You gotta be joking.

Bigwig
05-27-2005, 12:11 AM
Little too wreckless. I like this move if you have 4BB, not ~6. You can still get through the blinds, and find a better spot.

Newt_Buggs
05-27-2005, 12:55 AM
I was going to post a similar hand where i had 900 chips which I think is marginal. There is no reason to push this when you will still have FE after losing 300 chips.

What would everyones play be if hero had t900?

proell
05-27-2005, 01:07 AM
i still believe it is a fold with 900.
though definately closer.

lehighguy
05-27-2005, 01:15 AM
From an EV standpoint its obviously -EV.

The only reason to push is to preserve a chip stack big enough for people to fold to your pushes (fold equity). In a sense making a -EV move to make +EV moves in the future.

However, your 1100 chips means it will be easy to preserve fold equity without pushing here. If I had 800-900 chips I would probably push.

Unarmed
05-27-2005, 08:37 AM
Thank you. (and Bigwig)

This is clearly -EV. However, if I fold this, someone will push into my BB, and I can't take the BB from my SB with two cards because BB is pot committed with <3BB. So, if I fold this, I have to hope it gets folded around to my button, CO, or CO+1, which isn't real likely. If I don't get a chance to be first in by that point, I'm in EP again, but this time I have only 820 chips at 150/300. So say it gets to me UTG again and I'm dealt K9o. Yay, now pushing is +EV, but I'm clearly in a worse position that I was the prior round.

Also, this game (8 handed at Level 5) isn't looking like its going to be real profitable for me. If someone flipped up A8 in the BB and said, I'm calling anyone, I'd still push K9o UTG.

The way to effectively argue for a fold is to note that over 8 or 9 hands I'll expect to be dealt a hand about as good as AJo, so I should wait.

Moonsugar
05-27-2005, 09:29 AM
edit: early morning reading comprehension problems