gigabet is my hero

[Phil Van Sexton]

I had been playing awful until this point. I needed to do something to get going again.

Is this fancy play syndrome or should I be doing more of this at the 109s?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP2 (t1340)
CO (t875)
Button (t770)
SB (t1520)
Hero (t455)
UTG (t815)
UTG+1 (t1325)
MP1 (t2900)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t60) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t30</font>, Hero calls t30.

Turn: (t120) A/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t125</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t395 (All-In)</font>, SB folds.

Final Pot: t640

[Nick B.]

FPS

[ur2god]

[ QUOTE ]
FPS

[/ QUOTE ]

[Phoenix1010]

I don't like it. There's no way you're going to have enough FE to make up for the fact that you have almost no draw when called. If you have a super read (I believe Gigabet's principles rely heavily on knowing and exploiting your opponent's tendencies) that you didn't include in the post, that might change things. If you had even stacks and you weren't going all-in, this play would be super. Also, if your opponent started the hand with ~t1000 it might be fine as is. The hand posted is pretty clearcut FPS though.

-Phoenix

[Voltron87]

Gigabet has nothing on me.


***** Hand History for Game 2105739153 *****
15/30 TOURNEYTEXASHTGAMETABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 12529332) - WED MAY 25 21:27:59 EDT 2005
Table Table 13839 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: magg_4105 (800)
Seat 2: richalks (800)
Seat 3: syr_idiot (800)
Seat 4: mpokerw (800)
Seat 5: george75111 (800)
Seat 6: Frank_has_u (800)
Seat 7: Szechuan87 (800)
Seat 8: NuttnFuts (800)
Seat 9: manno31 (800)
Seat 10: sjb81 (800)
magg_4105 posts small blind (10)
richalks posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Szechuan87 [ Jd, Js ]
syr_idiot calls (15)
mpokerw calls (15)
george75111 calls (15)
Frank_has_u calls (15)
Szechuan87 raises (175) to 175
NuttnFuts calls (175)
manno31 calls (175)
sjb81 folds.
magg_4105 folds.
richalks folds.
syr_idiot calls (160)
sjb81: this should be ggod
mpokerw folds.
george75111 calls (160)
sjb81: yo mag
NuttnFuts: today would b nice
sjb81: de ja vu
Frank_has_u calls (160)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6c, 2h, Kd ]
syr_idiot checks.
george75111 checks.
Frank_has_u checks.
Szechuan87 bets (625)
Szechuan87 is all-In.
NuttnFuts folds.
manno31 folds.
syr_idiot folds.
george75111 folds.
magg_4105: whats going on
Frank_has_u folds.
Creating Main Pot with $1715 with Szechuan87
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1715
Board: [ 6c 2h Kd ]
magg_4105 balance 790, lost 10 (folded)
richalks balance 785, lost 15 (folded)
syr_idiot balance 625, lost 175 (folded)
mpokerw balance 785, lost 15 (folded)
george75111 balance 625, lost 175 (folded)
Frank_has_u balance 625, lost 175 (folded)
Szechuan87 balance 1715, bet 800, collected 1715, net +915 [ Jd Js ] [ a pair of jacks -- Kd,Jd,Js,6c,2h ]
NuttnFuts balance 625, lost 175 (folded)
manno31 balance 625, lost 175 (folded)
sjb81 balance 800, didn't bet (folded)


NOTHING I SAY

[fluorescenthippo]

You raised to 175 after 4 limpers lvl 1? I think that should say t75

[gumpzilla]

While we're on the topic . . .

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (3 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Button (t2160)
Hero (t6070)
BB (t5270)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t500</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t1200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t3000</font>, BB calls t1800.

Flop: (t6025) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t3045 (All-In)</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: t9070

I had just restolen from this guy for the first time a couple of hands ago, and I had the distinct feeling he wanted revenge. I think I also deserve bonus points for identifying a player at the 10s who would make this laydown.

EDIT: To answer the original question, I don't think it's fancy play syndrome. It can be difficult to identify when this kind of move is going to work, but for a shortstack in particular to take this kind of line looks really intimidating, because people are more used to an open desperation push from the shorties. Thus, it looks like you want to get paid, which should help ensure that you do, in a way.

[Phoenix1010]

[ QUOTE ]
You raised to 175 after 4 limpers lvl 1? I think that should say t75

[/ QUOTE ]

The stacks are all t800, meaning it's a low buy-in SnG. You shouldn't even be open raising to t75 in these games, much less raising 4 limpers. t175 is a great raise. Being that it's the first hand and he got a ton of callers, the flop push is pure insanity.

-Phoenix

[Atropos]

#Game No :
***** Hand History for Game *****
NL Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny: Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Saturday, May 21, 13:46:10 EDT 2005
Table Table **** (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: mytho_1987 ( $755 )
Seat 2: wmood ( $1775 )
Seat 3: Bobson55 ( $740 )
Seat 5: Looselady111 ( $785 )
Seat 6: Bktuna ( $920 )
Seat 7: hunger_13 ( $375 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $770 )
Seat 9: Swan_Lee ( $760 )
Seat 10: rrojas ( $1120 )
Trny: Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Th Td ]
Bktuna folds.
hunger_13 folds.
HERO calls [15].
Swan_Lee folds.
rrojas raises [50].
mytho_1987 folds.
wmood folds.
Bobson55 folds.
Looselady111 folds.
HERO calls [35].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, Qd, Qh ]
HERO checks.
rrojas bets [50].
HERO calls [50].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ks ]
HERO bets [175].
rrojas calls [175].
** Dealing River ** [ 2c ]
HERO is all-In [495]
rrojas will be using his time bank for this hand.
HERO: AK ?
rrojas: yup
HERO: ok
rrojas folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 1070 chips

Playing aggressive in marginal spots is one of the few ways to improve.

[Voltron87]

obviously thats the only time ive ever done this... it was awesome. i saw into all 6 of their souls.

[microbet]

Buh, I think it would be better if you had a stack left after the raise. If he had enough stack to bust him he would probably fold Ace with bad kicker. As it is he might call with 9s.

Having no stack behind you should make it worse for him to call with a draw, but I wouldn't count on him seeing it that way.

Edit: That said, you could make an argument (to Lorinda) that you need this pot.

[The Yugoslavian]

[ QUOTE ]
Being that it's the first hand and he got a ton of callers, the flop push is pure insanity.

-Phoenix

[/ QUOTE ]

If he's gonna bet that much pre-flop I think pushing that flop isn't so bad. Sure he's losing to AK, AA, KK and probably KQ but chances are that other hands were calling him (I'm only worried much about AK here).

Meh....yeah, the play is also so un-Gigabet I'm not sure how it even relates to any thread having to do with Giga.

PVS: In the 109s this is an acceptable way to play the hand vs. many opponents. You have *just* enough chips behind to make the allin raise viable here.

Yugoslav

[Seadood228]

I don't think it's FPS. You know hero doesn't have an ace, and you are hurting for chips. It's tough to make that play with so little behind, but IMO it's worth the risk considering you are desperate.

You might have even had the best hand /images/graemlins/smile.gif