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AA suited
05-25-2005, 08:01 PM
I've reviewed 25 of my hand histories so far when i had 25% roi over 1500 SnGs. (Now down to 10% in past 250 SnGs.)

From what I can tell, I have no clue how I got 25% roi given my style of play back then. Yet, I know I was 25% roi because that's what PokerTracker says. And the amount of $ it says that i won coincides with how much profit is in my bank acct.

Does that mean what I know now isn't correct?!

Here are a couple of examples of plays I would NEVER do now.

1) Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO (t1000)
HERO (t1000)
<font color="#C00000">SB (t1000)</font>
BB (t1000)
<font color="#C00000">UTG (t1000)</font>
UTG+1 (t1000)
UTG+2 (t1000)
MP1 (t1000)
MP2 (t1000)
MP3 (t1000)

Preflop: HERO is Button with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls t15, MP1 calls t15, MP2 calls t15, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, HERO calls t15, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t105) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, HERO checks.

-it was checked to me as button. The correct move would be to bet to steal the pot, right?

Turn: (t105) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t15</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls t15, HERO calls t15, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t75</font>, BB folds, UTG calls t60, MP2 calls t60, HERO calls t60.

-on the turn with the weak betting, the correct move would be to raise with top pair since there's a flush draw, right?

River: (t405) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t200</font>, UTG calls t200, MP2 folds, HERO folds.

Final Pot: t805

no reads since i was multitabling.

river- sb bets 1/2 pot, and utg calls. sb could have been stealing because of the weak betting, but what could utg have to call?!

Things I would have done differenty:
1) Bet on the flop for information, and try to steal the pot.
2) Raise on the turn with my top pair

Even though I'm getting 4:1, I would fold on the river today just like i did back then. i dont think it's worth risking that many chips in this situation at lvl1.

Correct/incorrect? Which ones, and why?

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2) Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP1 (t1777)
HERO (t1005)
CO (t1010)
Button (t1000)
SB (t1276)
BB (t3187)
UTG (t745)

Preflop: HERO is MP2 with 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">HERO raises to t150</font>, CO calls t150, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls t100.

Flop: (t475) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">HERO bets t250</font>, CO calls t250, BB folds.

Turn: (t975) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
HERO checks, CO checks.

River: (t975) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">HERO bets t605 (All-In)</font>, CO folds.

Final Pot: t1580

No reads because of multi-tabling.

On the river, I was probably trying to represent a flush. But i think bluffing is bad here. while it's unlikely Villian would call 3BB preflop with a 9 in his hand, he could have could have been on a flush draw (ie: KQs).

I would have never done this today.

Was this the incorrect move, and I just got REALLY lucky?

Would you have bluffed all in? What would you have done differently?

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3) Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Button (t4715)</font>
SB (t800)
BB (t2155)
<font color="#C00000">HERO (t810)</font>
MP (t1520)

Preflop: HERO is UTG with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">HERO raises to t810 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls t810, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

no reads.

Blinds just went up to 50/100. I'm not desparate for chips. I shouldn't have pushed w/kjo vs the bb who is #2 stack, right?

AA suited
05-25-2005, 11:37 PM
no replies? /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Sponger15SB
05-26-2005, 12:28 AM
[ QUOTE ]
I've reviewed 25 of my hand histories so far when i had 25% roi over 1500 SnGs. (Now down to 10% in past 250 SnGs.)

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Does this mean that you are a 10% ROI over your last 1750 SNGs, or are you just talking about your last 250?

If its just the last 250, don't worry, be happy /images/graemlins/grin.gif

FatBoyPete
05-26-2005, 12:48 AM
1st hand : no bet on flop unless you're going to really overbet it (moderate bet will probably called), raise the turn, river fold was good

2nd hand : i fold preflop

3rd hand : yes all in!

Maulik
05-26-2005, 12:53 AM
[ QUOTE ]
1st hand : no bet on flop unless you're going to really overbet it (moderate bet will probably called), raise the turn, river fold was good

2nd hand : i fold preflop

3rd hand : yes all in!

[/ QUOTE ]

#1 I used to try and take down pots with lots of people. In lvl3, I'd rather play like a rock and when I start raising to steal blinds in lvl 4+ I'll have a nice table image.
on the turn i'd raise the heck out of anyone

#2 I wouldn't play 55 in MP2, no need, especially w/ 1000chips. You're looking at getting called by someone whose going to flip a coin with you or someone who has a higher pocket pair. Limping early is a good play if you don't expect a raise, dumping it is better IMO

#3 I wouldn't push this if I had more chips given my position, you don't have many chips blinds are high.

I want to get high

Maulik
05-26-2005, 11:28 PM
bump, want to see what others have to say