View Full Version : Anything I can do here?
blackaces13
05-25-2005, 12:34 PM
I'm sure this will look familiar to everyone. You flop TPTK and get raised on the turn.
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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.
Flop: (6.50 SB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.
Turn: (6.25 BB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP1 folds, Hero calls.
River: (10.25 BB) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 12.25 BB
fluxrad
05-25-2005, 12:40 PM
Raise preflop.
Otherwise, I think I play it the same.
blackaces13
05-25-2005, 12:42 PM
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Raise preflop.
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It came raised to me in the BB. I don't like 3 betting AQo out of the big blind. I can understand doing it but I just don't do it unless I know the raiser to be a loose raiser or I suspect a blind steal. Neither of those conditions were met here.
irishpint
05-25-2005, 12:47 PM
id 3bet pf and i think i might fold to the turn raise from UTG1 since I dont think he's being honest. Check/call 2 cold on the flop and then raising the flop raiser on the turn. hmm, smells like he either his his straight or hit a set on the flop and didnt want to show it off quite yet.
gharp
05-25-2005, 12:48 PM
I'd play this hand the same (including flop & preflop).
On the turn, I think you could raise, then fold to a 3-bet. If he calls, you could check behind on the river T (or bet a river A or Q). That line would cost you the same amount as this one. I don't think I'd do it though, since raise+fold always feels unnatural to me.
blackaces13
05-25-2005, 12:49 PM
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Check/call 2 cold on the flop and then raising the flop raiser on the turn. hmm, smells like he either his his straight or hit a set on the flop and didnt want to show it off quite yet.
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Yeah but Ed Miller said that folding TPTK to a turn raise makes Jesus cry.
Guthrie
05-25-2005, 12:49 PM
I'd play it the same way, but expect to lose to a straight or TTT.
irishpint
05-25-2005, 12:53 PM
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Check/call 2 cold on the flop and then raising the flop raiser on the turn. hmm, smells like he either his his straight or hit a set on the flop and didnt want to show it off quite yet.
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Yeah but Ed Miller said that folding TPTK to a turn raise makes Jesus cry.
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exceptions to every rule? i mean do u think he called 2 cold on the flop for fun and now paired his T2 and is raising you? something wrong wit dat.
irishpint
05-25-2005, 12:54 PM
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I'd play it the same way, but expect to lose to a straight or TTT.
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-------->so no concered about TTT.
blackaces13
05-25-2005, 01:00 PM
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Check/call 2 cold on the flop and then raising the flop raiser on the turn. hmm, smells like he either his his straight or hit a set on the flop and didnt want to show it off quite yet.
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Yeah but Ed Miller said that folding TPTK to a turn raise makes Jesus cry.
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exceptions to every rule? i mean do u think he called 2 cold on the flop for fun and now paired his T2 and is raising you? something wrong wit dat.
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I see what you're saying but I'm just not capable of making this laydown HU with a flushdraw out there.
Jaran
05-25-2005, 01:06 PM
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Raise preflop.
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Without a read that MP1 is raising light, I don't think AQo is a raise here. If they were soooted, then prolly.
-Jaran
gopnik
05-25-2005, 01:09 PM
UTG+1 cold-called 2 on the flop. That says he either already has a monster or is on a good draw. I think in this case I'd fold to a turn raise. Without the flop action I'd call down.
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