Pot management in big bet games

[Ghazban]

What is the proper protocol for dealers gathering the pot in big bet games? I play in a non-casino no-limit game with paid non-playing dealers and they don't all do it the same way. One of them always stacks the pot neatly in stacks of like-denomination chips 10-high, making it very easy for anybody to instantly tell exactly how much money is in the pot. Another uses the more traditional mash-into-a-big-pile technique. I have always been of the opinion that it is up to the players to keep track of the pot size and prefer the big pile as it benefits those who are paying attention (or can accurately look at a pile and guesstimate).

Its not a big deal or anything, but I've never seen a casino dealer stack the pot like that and wonder if its appropriate.

[turnipmonster]

not appropriate, pot should be a big pile of money.

[Al_Capone_Junior]

the only games where it is appropriate to stack the pot are split pot games.

It's totally wrong to stack it otherwise. Even if the players put the stacks out neatly, you should still mash them into an uncountable pile. The only exception here might be if there's like four to a straight on the river and two players are betting big, you could wait to pull in their LAST bets to see if they tie. Any previous bets you must pull in and mash, even if you wind up having to stack them for division later.

As a side note, you shouldn't tell the players, even if asked, how much is in the pot. The exception, and only exception, is in pot limit, and then it's only when someone asks. This ain't online, and the dealers aren't responsible for telling the players things they should keep track of themselves.

al

[Ghazban]

Cool, that's what I thought. I will speak to the guy who runs the game about it. Thanks for clarifying.

[IgorSmiles]

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As a side note, you shouldn't tell the players, even if asked, how much is in the pot. The exception, and only exception, is in pot limit, and then it's only when someone asks. This ain't online, and the dealers aren't responsible for telling the players things they should keep track of themselves.

al

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Good pot limit dealers are worth their weight in gold. You know, the ones who already have the total on the tip of their tongue when you announce, "Pot." But not before, of course.

[Ray Zee]

all bets stay in front of the players until ready to deal then you bring them in to or towards the center but do not mash them up. this way they can be visually determined that they are correct and the dealer isnt doing any funny business. this is real money folks.

[Evan]

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This ain't online, and the dealers aren't responsible for telling the players things they should keep track of themselves.

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I don't really care whether a dealer stacks, mashes or builds castles out of the chips in the middle--but isn't like 90% of the dealer's job to tell players things they aren't paying attention to? e.g. who the action's on, what the bet is to them, how much to bet/raise, etc...

[daryn]

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This ain't online, and the dealers aren't responsible for telling the players things they should keep track of themselves.

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I don't really care whether a dealer stacks, mashes or builds castles out of the chips in the middle--but isn't like 90% of the dealer's job to tell players things they aren't paying attention to? e.g. who the action's on, what the bet is to them, how much to bet/raise, etc...

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you don't really care because either way, stack or mash, you still can't see over the chips. /images/graemlins/grin.gif